While streaming, the rapper performed a Nazi salute and said: ‘Heil Hitler’

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    Surely someone clipped it and it’s in the internet somewhere… I wanna see how awful it is

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    So some commercial American social media still ban Nazis? How long will they be able to do that?

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    2005: “George Bush doesn’t care about black people”

    2025: “Heil Hitler”

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    I’m really surprised he hasn’t made an account on truth social, they love that shit over there.

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    From the article:

    In February, Friends actor David Schwimmer called on Musk to ban Kanye West from X after he made a series of antisemitic posts.

    Schwimmer called on Musk, the owner of X, to remove West from the platform. “This is so 2022,” said Schwimmer. “We can’t stop a deranged bigot from spewing hate-filled, ignorant bile… but we CAN stop giving him a megaphone, Mr Musk.”

    Bold of Schwimmer to assume Musk in any way disagrees with Ye’s views.

    Elon is not just holding the megaphone, he’s actively cranking up the volume dial.

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      I find it strange that David Schwimmer made a public plea for decency when it was about anti-semitism but not for any of the rest of the hateful shit projectile-blasted around that echo chamber.

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          He’s also rich and Jewish, probably doesn’t give a fuck about any injustice unless it’s antisemitism.

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            Unless he’s puling a Seinfeld when I wasn’t looking, I’ll reserve that judgement for another day.

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    Drugs in the 90s were responsible for great music and dead singers, drugs today won’t work as fine

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      So the thing is he’s actually off his meds according to a lot of people. Blame the lack of drugs instead of the drugs

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    I don’t understand how there can be black people in favor of Hitler. How do they rationalize praising someone who would have genocided them?

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      Some people will gladly sell out the group they belong to, even when it’s absolutely obvious that they will also be targeted later

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      History lessons in the US focus on the Jewish victims of the Holocaust to the exclusion of all others. Plenty of people don’t know that gay, trans, leftist, or non-white people were genocided.

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        Even white people. Slavs for instance. Anyone considered crippled. Political enemies.

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          Slavs weren’t really considered white back then. “White” as a social construct goes far beyond skin color.

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            “white” is a US idea. Like Irish not being “white”. Third Reich cared about Aryans, similar but different rules.

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        They were the primary target and most Jews died in the Holocaust. That’s being said I think people of color who are Nazis tend play mental gymnastics to ignore the racism. I think it is the younger crowd who wasn’t hunted by hate groups.

        The real thing to note is that Nazi Germany condemned large groups of people to die. When society is ok with singling out a group of people anything can happen.

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        Yeah, but isn’t he Christian? I think “Jesus Walks” was one of his songs. Jesus was absolutely Jewish and Christianity was a sect of Judaism for decades, maybe even hundreds of years. I’ll never understand hating the people that founded your religion.

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        You’re right, but it’s definitely different depending where you live. I went to a high school in the New York suburbs that was largely Jewish. If I had to guess I’d say 30%, with the rest being a mix. We had holocaust survivors come to speak once or twice while I was there. I graduated in 06. Our teachers did not skimp on any of that. The stats were certainly focused on jews, but they also didn’t leave anyone out.

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      “I’m different, he wants to clean the dirty ones”

      “why am I being loaded into a train I’M DIFFERENT”

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            Yeah, good idea, we can even make long lines of them in a well-organized convoy. Maybe the ones in front and back can control the ones in the middle.

            Then to make sure they stay in formation, we can physically link them together, but with a bit of slack to turn and such.

            In fact, we could even make special roads for these convoys so they get maximum fuel efficiency while also preventing them from accidentally drifting off of it. These roads would be exclusively used by these tesla convoys.

            When these roads have to intersect with normal ones, we will give the convoys right of way, with some sort of movable barrier blocking the other cars from crossing.

            Yeah, this idea is shaping up. Imagine all the people and cargo we could move with this hyper-efficient system.

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              You know, if we made individual cars larger so they could hold more people or cargo, this idea could get really efficient!

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                Larger… You know, large cars really should have a semi standardized format, you know, so you always know what to look out for. Like containers! Imagine that, a container on wheels, it has so much space for people and cargo!

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              Can we have levers which toggle which direction the group of vehicles travel on? We could then rest people on different paths and have their loved ones make life altering decisions by choosing to pull or push the lever.

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          19 hours ago

          To be honest, I’m actually really surprised we’re using planes and not trains, buses and ships

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      He got inspired by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a pseudo-religous group that believes african americans are decendents of jews.

      If I recall correctly from his infowars Interview (or somewhere else around that time), he came to the conclusion that since he’s a jew, he gets to decide if hitler was a good guy or not. It didn’t make much sense and I don’t recall why exactly he came to the conclusion that he as a good guy, but I think he said something like “There’s only love, so he cant be a bad guy”.

      It’s possible he thinks black americans are the real jews, that hitler was doing a good thing with killing imposters.

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        You omitted the part where his girlfriend sucked his balls in public whilst traversing the waters of Venice in a gondola.
        That should be topmost when defining his mental prowess.

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          He all but forced his wife to show up naked to the Grammy’s - there’s video where it looks like she’s trying to argue with him about it.

          Plus that “wives sell pussy for life” line - a big part of this is misogyny. He’s got some extremely disturbed attitudes towards sex and women, and is dangerous.

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      In the case of Kanye… fell astoundingly far down the antisemitic conspiracy rabbit hole.

      Before he went turbo-mega-ultra Hitler fanbo1 on Alex Jones… he was saying a lot of shit about how the entire entertainment industry was run by a cabal of Jews who secretly fucked over himself and other black artists in particular.

      … He completely lost his mind in this process and has arguably been having the world’s longest sustained, continuous, psychotic break (I think he’s been far more obviously just unhinged bonkers for longer than Elon?).

      He legitimately hated and hates Jews so much that the actual Hitler stuff came afterward.

      How does he rationalize that Hitler would absolutely have killed every Black or African descended person he could, that he switched from being inspired by American rascism to calling the US a ‘mongrelized’ people, because of American society’s multiracial makeup, interracial marriage etc?

      Easy: He’s completely insane and legitimately should be in a room with padded walls.

      Logic? Reason?

      404 error.

      Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

      Yeah, doesn’t go so well.

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        Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

        I haven’t. How’s it go?

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          Not well. As RedditRefugee notes…

          They do indeed usually incorperate you into their personalized, uber conspirstorial worldview.

          If you have ever heard the phrase ‘Targeted Individual’ or ‘Gangstalking/Gangstalkers’… these are phrases commonly used by schizophrenics in online communities… who, having broadly similar underlying thought processes and lived experiences, will and do gather on the internet and discuss their … paranoid/persecutory delusions… and they do seem to have largely agreed on those phrases to describe their individualized, specific experiences.

          I believe at one point, reddit had a fairly large r/TargetedIndividuals or r/TIs subreddit, something like that… not sure if it still exists or is active.

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            The “targeted individual” stuff is sad. There’s lots of tiny YouTube and TikTok accounts where people plead to their imaginary tormentors to stop, or angrily rant about how they’re ultimately going to win.

            I posted on the TI subreddit a few times trying to encourage people to reach out for help/take their medicine, but yeah - you just become part of the conspiracy, or you simply don’t get it.

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              So… yeah.

              I just wanna say… they’re not ‘imaginary’ tormentors, in the sense of someone playing make believe, who can just … not do that.

              They cannot turn off the voices in their heads.

              They cannot control the fact that they have vivid visual, audio, tactile, olfactory etc hallucinations that are indistinguishable from actual reality, that their memories of past events can basically just have things that did not actually happen… formed or inserted as a ‘core memory’, or things that did actually happen… wildly warped or just removed.

              So… what do you do, show them a video of what happened, with them in it?

              Nope, thats fake, thats not them, that is their doppleganger, that is their evil clone.

              Nobody really knows how to ‘fix’ this, or if its even possible.

              Antipsychotics generally just make them more docile and less prone to aggressive outbursts, but they also have massive sideeffects… they often do not actually stop the actual ‘unreal’ experiences.

              It is nowhere near as simple as ‘stay on your meds and all the hallucinations go away.’

              The result is that… they cannot trust anything… because quite often, the psychiatrists and other medical people they see will basically manipulate and trick them into beleiving the meds … are a cure… insinuating or even directly stating that their meds will solve the problem.

              There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

              I had an ex who … developed into severe schizophrenia.

              Shit sucks man.

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                There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

                Certainly. When I was inpatient I saw them drug a man and lock him in a small closet.

                The state won’t investigate the fact that I was assaulted - they sure as shit won’t ever believe anything that man says.

                I don’t understand why the state of the mental health system is so fucked. and why no one seems to be trying to fix it.

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                  … My ex was SA’d by a staff member during one fairly long term stay.

                  Managed to get that guy fired, but not … you know, prosecuted.

                  The state of mental health is fucked because mental health, at its core, foundationally is built off of ‘how do we pathologize and treat people who have trouble being or cannot actually be any kind of an ideal employee.’

                  No one fixes this, or homelessness, because … no one cares, these people have no money or power, they are viewed as drains on society, instead of potentially productive members of society, or even fundamentally as just… human beings with consciousness/souls.

                  It is a structural issue with literally all of society, and the severely mentally ill, and the homeless (which often coincide, what a shocker) are literally the untouchables class.

                  We like to think we are more modern, more enlightened, more decent… no, we are not.

                  We are just better at technological propoganda and treats and distractions.

                  … Maybe there is a world where … now that the veil of this has been shattered by the rise of fascist MAGAs… maybe, down the line, this will lead to some kind of equivalent social/philosophical reexamination of how… we do everything, as there was after WW2 and the Holocaust… maybe that could be our future.

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      Basically, cognitive dissonance. They simply refuse to believe the truth, and make up their own fantasies in which everything is backwards from reality. It makes them feel like they have some power over their life, and/or that they’re special.

      99% of the time people like this are just deeply freaked out at the idea of a cold uncaring universe with nobody in control.

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      some people are breathtakingly stupid and mental illness is complicated, idk what to tell you fam

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      Well, believe me or not but black people were not on the bottom of the human nazi chart. The Jews were on the maximum bottom, then there were Russians/Poles/Serbs/Belarussians/Ukrainians, and then after them there were black people.

      But still, black people weren’t consider aryan lol

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        But usually racists are racist towards some other group of people, not themselves.

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      This is little rational thinking in politics and political beliefs

      It is all irrational for the most part