When ABC News’ Terry Moran asked Pres. Donald Trump to respond to voters who may be concerned that rising costs are not what they “signed up for,” Trump responded: “Well, they did sign up for this actually.”
Can’t argue with that. It’s not like he hid anything. He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. It’s not like these morons couldn’t have googled “what is a tariff” before election day and that’s not Trump’s fault that they didn’t. This is something I actually agree with Trump on. Imagine having so many loyal fans and then suddenly they’re acting surprised and angry that you’re doing exactly what you promised to do. It’s kind of absurd.
He actually did lie repeatedly about tariffs. The Daily Show did a great segment on it.
He lied about the impact they’d have every time he was asked about it publicly during the campaign.
OP is right that instead of believing the lies and propaganda, a 5min google could have really cleared things up for some people. The problem is Trump consistently implied that other countries pay the tariffs, which obviously isn’t how tariffs work.
US companies pay them as import costs, and pass those costs directly to the consumer in the form of price increases. That’s why tariffs are a Tax by another name.
He also back pedals on everything, and is a lying shit sack. But those are just two giant character flaws that should have immediately disqualified him to anyone who isn’t an idiot.
Unfortunately all we get for POTUS candidates are character flaws these days.
It’s just common sense that taxes make costs go up. Any other belief is magical thinking and anyone dumb enough ti fall for it deserves to be fooled
Well the media didn’t do an amazing job referring to tariffs as “import taxes” and the average American is pretty dumb.
Exactly. The Conservative Propaganda Machine deliberately muddied the water about taxes, and confused their easily befuddled followers.
But they have been fed a steady diet of tax demonization, where the smallest and most necessary tax is nothing less that outrageous tyranny. They despise any taxes to their core.
So why wouldn’t the Dems re-brand the tariff’s as “Trump’s Taxes,” name him as the greatest tax increaser in American history, and make EVERY Democrat say it in every single media appearance? Just repeat it over and over and over, until even we get sick of it.
Politics is 90% marketing, and the Dems messaging has been abysmal for decades. They have basically abdicated all responsibility for directing the political discourse in this country. The Republicans, now MAGA, set all the definitions, direct the entire discourse, and Dems just react to it, usually poorly.
First, no it isn’t.
Second, this is terrible messaging. Part of why Democrats lost so big and Trump broadened his coalition is that people aren’t stupid, and they’re sick and tired of the moronic finger wagging. Your message shouldn’t be “You deserve this,” because you need those votes. Your message should be (and also just happens to be correct): “You were lied to, but there’s an election next year, and if you vote for us we’ll put a stop to this.”
He’s not wrong, they did sign up for it. They’re just too stupid to realize it. Trump’s last trade war required a bailout of over 10 billion to rescue farmers, and somehow they’re surprised the second time around?
they never got the news “farmers had to get bailed out”. they are put in a carefully controlled information bubble. at least those more out there people you to allude to.
they just know “Trump Was The BEST Commander To Our ECONOMY!” or that “Biden Does Blood RITUALS With BABIES!” or something.
No they got that news, just too stupid to recognize why they needed the many farm bail outs.
Or as one family member reacted to trumps previous tariffs that fucked over farmers they just need to get better at future planning…
those don’t really want to change their view, and make an effort not to. its more comfortable to keep banging their heads trying to fit their old worldview into a completely different world.
tell me if you ever find out how to even talk with those, if they can even be deprogrammed at this point.
In some ways its a shame that there are other people in the room that can impact his decisions, now that any of the adults from the first admin are gone.
Good chance he would sign an EO creating price caps on certain goods as a super senile idea. Which would have been funny to see.
That thread is creepy.
Trump not only promised to bring down prices, but promised to do so “on day one.” In fact, in the final days of the campaign, that was likely the promise he repeated the most.
So not only is he somewhere between delusional and dishonest (which I already knew), but every single person who responded to insist rising prices is indeed what they signed up for is also somewhere between delusional and dishonest.
Why? What compels them? What do they expect to gain?
I’m beginning to suspect that there’s some environmental factor or something in the US that makes people delusional, angry and stupid, because this has gone way beyond anything that can be explained by political partisanship alone.
It’s racism and sexism. Trump stands for hurting non-whites. As long as non-whites are being hurt, the racist people will endure anything.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson
Just like with Hillary Clinton, many people will never be ok with a woman president.
I was with you right up until the end.
Hillary’s gender is a weak excuse that the DNC and the establishment Dems trot out to try to duck the blame for sabotaging a sincere progressive in order to run a neolib weasel who gives paid speeches to international bankers and idolizes Kissinger.
Well, that’s great you have “deeper” reasoning for not voting for Hillary Clinton and getting us the first Trump.
This works for Republicans of color also, they see themselves as a step up from the “others”. They may not be white, but they aren’t just Black/Hispanic/[under-represented group]. That one guy in SC stated online “I’m a black Nazi!”
To be fair, Trump also stands for hurting whites. That’s the problem with fascism, you don’t ever really eliminate the enemy. You just redefine who the enemy is whenever it’s convenient. Eventually, if there’s nothing but white people left, then a sub group of them will become the new scapegoat, and then when they’re gone another, etc.
Trump is only for himself.
People think they are in Trump’s group, but even Jeff Bezos got publicly slapped yesterday.
More generally, it’s in-group vs out-group. For many people, the in-group is “white men” and the out-group is “everyone else”. But this behavior is pretty baked into humans. We’ll form stupid groups over anything. I was reading a book about how people change their minds, and it talked about some experiments they did. Like, they gave kids at a summer camp different colored shirts, and sure enough they formed separate groups. They had to stop the experiment when one group tried to burn down the cabin of the other group.
I don’t know how to fix this.
The in-group is the working class and the out-group is the wealthy.
If you know a way to get from here to there, please share. At my old job I tried to radicalize my coworkers so they’d understand our interests align with each other more than ownership. I had some success.
Yeah. Trump was really clear that inflation happened, it was bad, and he would fix it.
There is also a deep hole of propaganda that is the basis of Trump’s support.
I think a lot of people are arguing this was the natural outcome. That if you looked at what he was going to do, the only plausible outcome was higher prices.
While he promised lower prices, it was obvious he had no plans to actually achieve it. So if you used any bit of intelligence, it was obvious a vote for him would lead to this outcome, meaning you voted for this.
His supporters aren’t going to see this quote or these clips. They’re on Truth Social, MAGA podcasts, Meta bubbles, and confirmation-bias-boosting chatbots.
Lead poisoning is my guess
The realization is that it was never about political partisanship in the first place. It was always this psycho-sexual libidinal phenomenon that philosophical liberalism cannot actually deal with so it invents things like political partisanship and “economic rationality” and “single-issue voters” to explain away the reality that human society works in a fundamentally different way than liberalism thinks it does.
Unchecked social media and smart phones. I don’t think humans are meant to be this connected.
Lead doesn’t help either.
At the least, some considerable part of the problem is that angry, stupid bigots who used to be mostly limited to cringey drunken solo rants are now able to network with each other and cheer on each other’s anger and stupidity and bigotry.
Lead, shitty water, opioids, a combination of those and more… who knows?
Don’t forget microplastics!
Everyone got those yet some people are still cognizant in spite of it, so maybe, but in combination with something else.
PFAS, pesticides… Almost every synthetic and a lot of the natural chemicals used in industry have unknown or known-bad side effects on hormones, behaviour, brain development, everything. And most countries don’t regulate anything that doesn’t outright hospitalise you right after exposure.
this has gone way beyond anything that can be explained by political partisanship alone
I think you underestimate how strongly partisanship and loyalty to a leader can work. It’s a smaller-scale version of “my country, right or wrong,” or akin to booing the ref for a call against your team even when it’s an obvious one.
These 2026 political candidates keep getting content
I’m a Trump Voter who had a TRUMP LOWER PRICES KAMALA HIGHER PRICES Sign in my Front Yard and I 100% AGREE WITH TRUMP IN HIS STATEMENT!
-People NOT in a Cult!
Well, that’s ten minutes of my life I’d like back. Thanks though. Does he ever listen? Ever?
