This works very well for tech enthusiasts and people who self-host nextcloud at home.
The issue is when you are a government or university, it becomes harder to get all your users (which are probably not all tech savvy) to install a third party app store deal with the Android warnings about installing from third-parties, etc etc.
And this is probably the user base Google are targeting with this move (assuming it’s malicious) . When the higher ups complain that their files are not syncing and need to install things with a special procedure they sometimes wonder why they are not using M365 or Google which seems hassle free.
Not to mention the “see this big alert saying this isn’t safe? Well for this one time it /is/ safe so do so” While curbing the mentality of “oh it was safe last time so it must be safe this time”
It’s not as simple as telling people to use F-Droid. People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle. Unless I’m misremembering? I wouldn’t know because I run rooted CalyxOS now. Last time I used F-Droid on a plain Android phone is a while ago for me.
My phone is not getting CalyxOS updates anymore. Gotta wipe it all and move to lineageos now. Man I hate mobile operating systems. I need good linux phones right now. Android can go to hell.
In the Basic version only, last time I checked the “original” F-Droid couldn’t do it. And there’s also some minimum API level an app has to target to be eligible for automatic updates (found that out through updating microg and having to click “update” still)
People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle.
Not true if the app to update targets a high enough API version and if you use F-Droid Basic.
NOTE: The Basic version of F-Droid Client has a reduced feature set (e.g. no nearby share and no panic feature). It targets Android 13 and can do unattended updates without privileged extension or root.
They have problems with the build process and verification, also the software is sometimes out of date on fdroid. In addition I dont personally want someone else curating my software library.
More like F-Droid cares about things like reproducible builds and other best practices, and sloppy upstream projects sometimes have a problem coping. But as I understand it that’s typically the upstream developers’ problem, not F-Droid’s.
As side note, for the uninitiated, it is a process. Check Fdroid first for all your apps. Many are there but some are not. This should prompt you to look for alternatives.
It is a journey but remember denying corpo parasite engagement and profit is the direct action any one can take today!
Just switch to the F-Droid version.
Better: make sure all the apps you use come from F-Droid
Obtaniun > F-droid > Aurora
What is the point of obtainium ? Over fdroid?
You get apps a couple days earlier
But it comes with a huge downside: if dev goes rogue or gets hacked, you could install a malicious version of the app that doesn’t match the source
This works very well for tech enthusiasts and people who self-host nextcloud at home.
The issue is when you are a government or university, it becomes harder to get all your users (which are probably not all tech savvy) to install a third party app store deal with the Android warnings about installing from third-parties, etc etc.
And this is probably the user base Google are targeting with this move (assuming it’s malicious) . When the higher ups complain that their files are not syncing and need to install things with a special procedure they sometimes wonder why they are not using M365 or Google which seems hassle free.
Not to mention the “see this big alert saying this isn’t safe? Well for this one time it /is/ safe so do so” While curbing the mentality of “oh it was safe last time so it must be safe this time”
It’s not as simple as telling people to use F-Droid. People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle. Unless I’m misremembering? I wouldn’t know because I run rooted CalyxOS now. Last time I used F-Droid on a plain Android phone is a while ago for me.
My phone is not getting CalyxOS updates anymore. Gotta wipe it all and move to lineageos now. Man I hate mobile operating systems. I need good linux phones right now. Android can go to hell.
They added that a while ago for all users on Android 12 and up
In the Basic version only, last time I checked the “original” F-Droid couldn’t do it. And there’s also some minimum API level an app has to target to be eligible for automatic updates (found that out through updating microg and having to click “update” still)
I have the regular F-droid and it does automatic updates now.
Not true if the app to update targets a high enough API version and if you use F-Droid Basic.
I have automatic upgrades on my non-rooted phone. I use droidify but i’m pretty sure the official F-droid client works the same way.
I run CalyxOS and have automatic updates from F-Droid.
But it won’t work on your dad’s stock Samsung Galaxy, right?
Yes, so do I. I phrased that a bit weird when I read it again 😅
I get update notifications from f-droid but have to update inside the f-droid app.
Obtainium is better, get the apps directly from the source
I actually like that the F-Droid maintainers check over the apps and warn about anti-features/stop offering new versions if they enshittify.
Their apps also cause tons of problems compared to the ones directly from the source
This is 100% untrue and you are making shit up.
How so? OOTL here
They do not. F-Droid also compiles from the source, they are the same apps.
They have problems with the build process and verification, also the software is sometimes out of date on fdroid. In addition I dont personally want someone else curating my software library.
More like F-Droid cares about things like reproducible builds and other best practices, and sloppy upstream projects sometimes have a problem coping. But as I understand it that’s typically the upstream developers’ problem, not F-Droid’s.
Expand on this please. I am unfamiliar.
Its an open source software manager, you put in a source (like github) and it manages it (even doing auto updates).
I’m sorry, you lost me
Basically it automatically installs and updates software directly from the developers with no middle man
YAS KING!
As side note, for the uninitiated, it is a process. Check Fdroid first for all your apps. Many are there but some are not. This should prompt you to look for alternatives.
It is a journey but remember denying corpo parasite engagement and profit is the direct action any one can take today!