Now this is a idea worth promoting.
Yes, we need to visualize the possible realities sometimes. It’s healthy
ICE “agents” wear jungle camo for urban operations. How are you dumber than the police? I don’t have much hope that they can avoid manipulation. Which is what CEOs are very good at… Apparently.
What
I really pissed off a bunch of my family when I was a kid with this general concept.
“Illegal Mexicans” are taking all the jobs was a common sentiment with some of my adult family members and their friends. Being young, precocious, and naive, I remember asking why they are mad at the people “taking” their jobs, but not the owners who were hiring illegal immigrants. It didn’t go over very well.
It’s such a silly idea, kids can see how stupid it is because they haven’t been thoroughly indoctrinated yet I guess. When I was young hearing about immigrants taking jobs it just seemed logical that they wouldn’t ‘take’ them if US citizens would work for the same pay as the migrant workers. The employers clearly enable this, why would anyone blame an immigrant? A ten year old can understand this.
The answer is simple. If you’re exploiting people you’re doing capitalism right. It’s the American dream.
This is the thing I’ve never understood. If we were truly concerned about undocumented workers taking jobs and resources, the logical solution would be to go after the companies employing them. But we’re not concerned with that. It’s always just a bad faith argument that boils down to plain old racism.
It seems like a you’ve understood it just fine
That’s why the rhetoric is shifting from “they’re taking our jobs” to “they are all violent murders and rapists”.
They are, but not enough. Recently two companies, ACSI and Durable Inc, were fined for hiring illegals. ACSI was charged $2m and Durable 200k. Donnie needs to step it up and charge every company that uses exploited labor.
ACSI was charged $2m and Durable 200k.
Rounding errors for these companies. And most likely they were de facto fines for not donating enough to Republican candidates.
fined for hiring illegals
Let’s not talk like them please. It’s dehumanizing.
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They illegally immigrated, they are illegal immigrants. No thesaurus contains the words to change reality.
What word should I use to virtue signal so you feel better reading?
Undocumented immigrant? Immigrating without documents is an illegal act, making them an illegal immigrant.
Undocumented migrant? That is someone who illegally enters the country to work for a period and return home, with no intention of permanent residence, making them an illegal migrant.
Undocumented Refugee? That is an illegal act of immigration.
Undocumented Asylum Seeker? That is an illegal act of immigration.
How will me using softer language make the situation better for illegals? It won’t make companies stop exploiting them. It won’t give them citizenship. It won’t stop them from risking deportation.
This is a meme thread ffs.
Lots of people break laws but we don’t start identify people as “jaywalking citizens” just because they jaywalked.
So they are here illegally, better people have done worse things.
I think “undocumented” is a much less loaded term.
This is a meme thread ffs.
And the longest post I’ve run into so far is you being angry that somebody suggested using nice language when talking about large groups of humans.
You said “illegals.” Not “illegal immigrants.” Illegals. Which by the way is labeled as “derogatory” in the dictionary if you’re going to insist on hiding behind some lame ass dictionary excuse.
You did that on purpose, you used “illegals” intentionally (even making it a point to use the term in almost every single comment you have written in this thread) and now you’re going to the mat to defend it. It’s gross as hell and all your fake appeals to your alleged concern for immigrants in this country are not going to cover up that fact. You’re making this something it isn’t. It’s a shitty term and you shouldn’t use it. If you keep using it you’re being shitty. That’s it. That’s the debate.
And don’t pull that bullshit where you go “not that any of this is that serious.” That went out the window when you wrote your unhinged rant defending a bigoted term used to dehumanize people who immigrate to this country.
I have to ask: Is it really that difficult to not use a borderline slur? Is this really the hill you want to die on? You gonna call a black woman “the DEI hire” too while you’re at it?
^ And this is why liberals so goddamned always lose.
“Fascism is here, now, today. We have to fight, and that means preparing for violence because it will to that.”
“NOOAAWW! You used a BAD word! STOP!”
When the trains arrive, be aware, you’re not going to get your choice of gendered potty, probably have to shit where you stand. And stand in it. Feel free to police the language of everyone around you though!
You gotta give it to conservatives! At least their messages are on point and they stick together. Meanwhile, liberal’s squabbling about, whatever boolshit it is today…
These a word for people who underestimate the importance of words: idiot.
They’re not disagreeing, nor withholding support because of a word, so your argument does not apply.
Politely pointing out that a word is dehumanizing is completely valid and we should all strive to be more compassionate with our language.
It does matter.
two things can be true.
yes, liberals are heinous with their policing of certain words, particularly when there are much bigger issues to address.
also, yes, calling people illegals is also dehumanizing. no human is illegal on stolen land.
What the fuck are you on about? Get professional help dude.
Two companies of tens or hundreds of thousands. And for those two, how much money did they make off the backs of illegal workers? I’m willing to bet significantly more than they were fined.
Edit: at least for Durable Inc, according to Ice, who is is probably going to want to appear tough rather than dow playing it, this is the second time they’ve been fined and their workforce is 92% illegal workers (roughly 53 legal workers, 604 not). If they’re not bankrupted by having, 92% illegal workers, clearly its just a tax, not a punishment or attempt to stop them.
That’s nothing. Like, less than $350 per person. They’re laughing their way to the bank.
There are more companies that have been fined recently, I was just giving those two examples of it happening.
The thing is about the fines, they are low, but companies that depend on exploiting illegals can’t survive without that cheap labor with their business model. So either they adjust and are good boys and girls, or they go bankrupt. I would rather have a business come into compliance at a higher price point, but going under is the market excising a tumor. So the fines being lower than lethal has a potential upside that creates jobs for citizens.
But that would include his own companies…
Does he employ illegals?
He 100% did he tried to “purge” some in 2019 to avoid public scrutiny but it was widely reported that he did.
- https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-organization-undocumented-workers
- https://thehill.com/latino/429136-more-than-100-undocumented-immigrants-worked-at-trumps-bedminster-resort-during/
- https://theweek.com/speedreads/834102/trumps-maralago-resort-quietly-purging-undocumented-employees
Haven’t seen any recent reports on it but yeah, we can assume that if he can make sure the public doesn’t know about it, he does still or will do it again, as soon as he can.
Make tea and have a seat, because this is a bit of a story.
After the era of J. Edgar Hoover, FBI engaged in a lot of internal soul-searching and wanted to actually live up to its name as an investigation department, rather than what it had been under Hoover, which was a paramilitary force in the service of the current administration, (see FBI’s interest in far-left activists like Dr. King and Malcom X and the Black Panthers) it changed its focus in the 80s to organized crime and serial killers (though they were very few in number, and hot cases when at large) Reagan used the DEA for stings against political enemies, but political activists were able to act more openly as elections and campaign money was deregulated.
In 2001 the 9/11 attacks happened, rapidly followed by the PATRIOT Act which was passed, largely sight unseen, which put FBI under the Department of Homeland Security. Soon after that ICE was formed intended to be a paramilitary department that served the interests of the
new regimecurrent administration, and it’s been that the whole time.And this is how ICE appeared in New Zealand for the raid of the Kim Dotcom estate on < checks wikipedia > January 20, 2012 (the same day as the Wikipedia blackout in protest of the SOPA act, incidentally). Also there were representatives from the MPAA and RIAA since the arrest of Dotcom was argued to be based on media piracy infractions (that Dotcom was getting a slew of hip hop artists to ditch the labels and use the new MEGAupload music distro service had nothing to do with it we swear). These days, the raid was credited to the New Zealand police, but in the January and February reporting of the incident in 2012, it was US Immigrant and Customs Enforcement (on loan to big media). As Dotcom noted, they could have just arrested him in his workplace parking lot. His work routine was consistent. Someone wanted a show,
ICE appears in a number of other weird places, including busting a number of repair shops in Florida that were fixing Apple products without licensing to do so. This would forshadow the wave of right-to-repair legislation and litigation that is still moving through the states (with John Deere and Apple making strange bedfellows).
On their website ICE does customs work within the US while the CBP is supposed to operate along the US borders, but really ICE goes where it pleases, and arrests who they like, and it was this way right up to the George Floyd protests in 2020 when Trump used them as his private police force to interdict where the local departments were not doing (in Trump’s opinion) a sufficient(ly brutal) job. And this is how the ICE office in Portland Oregon became a focal point where every dispersed crowd of demonstrators resulted in double the numbers the next day (and lines of moms and dads). That’s how Abolish ICE became a rallying cry during the protests. I wonder why we stopped chanting.
So ICE was developed much the way the German SS was, as a paramilitary service loyal to Dear Leader rather than loyal to the office of the Chancellery / Presidency, because when you’re a despot trying to put down democratic features, you need a force that’s loyal to you and not the law.
This should really be its own post. Great job.
Not the Onion: Kid Rock’s Restaurant Closes to Avoid Trump’s ICE Raids
Kid Rock and Steve Smith (the MAGA businessman running the restaurant chains in the article, not the son from American Dad!) still at large.
Re Kid Rock, suspect is not hatless. Repeat, not hatless.
This is simple:
Politicians hating on illegals gets voters. For the owner class, it’s about cheap, scared labor. Works out for both parties!
Until some dumbass starts actually deporting our slave labor, oh boy.
They are bringing criminal charges against a business in Texas for harboring undocumented workers. Of course, the owners are legal Mexican immigrants and it’s a small family business.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-county-swung-trump-grapples-051827128.html
Well, they would have to round each other up as well, for doing the CEO’s illegal dirty work, wouldn’t they?
conspiracy to commit fraud you mean? yeah. True.
Oh, pease. If CEOs were responsible for every little thing that happened in a large vcmpany, they’d be on millions- Oh, wait…
The last time that happened … there had to be a global war that involved hundreds of countries and millions of dead
I mean didn’t Oscar Schindler talk literal Nazis into letting him continue to use Jewsish workers during a time they were being forcibly exterminated? I mean I’m glad he did, but it does show in a remarkable way what CEOs are capable of.
Only in my dreams…
Weird AI image. The signature at the bottom left and what appears to be a police car don’t seem to make sense. But yeah, fuck those greedy CEOs.
per tineye this seems to be the original: https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/bagleytoon-0619.jpg?w=485
