• Dave.@aussie.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    14 hours ago

    Australian here.

    Step 1: design your damn toilets so they do not clog.

    Step 2: there is no step 2.

    Seriously, half a century of toilet use here in Aus and I’ve never caused - or discovered even - a blocked toilet at home.

    Clearly the fact that I can buy a toilet plunger from the local hardware store indicates that this can happen here. But it seems that every American household has a toilet plunger and poop knife on standby and many articles are devoted to what clogs, and how to unclog, American toilets.

    There are better designs for both toilets and plumbing out there guys, maybe you should look into using them.

  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    61
    ·
    16 hours ago

    Note to Australians. Your sewerage pipes are double the width of the USA’s weak, inferior pipes. You may never need a plunger in your entire life.

    Also, wet wipes are NOT flushable ANYWHERE, and if we didn’t live in fake democracies ruled by corporations any company that labelled them as such would have been sued into bankruptcy decades ago.

    • overload@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      Also see our traffic crossings, currency (notes), and preferential voting system for other things Australians do better than most of the rest of the world.

  • Wahots@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    You will never clog a toilet if you get a bidet. Putting tons of TP in is how you get clogs.

    • pg_jglr@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      13 hours ago

      This was the part that I wouldn’t do just because I view the sink as mostly clean and plunger as mostly dirty. So unless I were to sterilize the sink afterwards I wouldn’t put a plunger in the sink.

      • Psythik@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 hours ago

        Yeah seriously that’s gross as fuck. I wouldn’t even want to use a garage sink to rinse a plunger. It’s just too nasty for me. It gets rinsed outside with the hose.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      It’s to reduce the chance of it cracking as rubber gets brittle at lower temps; especially a shit batch of cheap dollar-store rubber. If it cracks it’s useless.

  • Signtist@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    15 hours ago

    I’ve never had a problem starting on step 4 and repeating a few times.

  • ohellidk@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    16 hours ago

    DO NOT use hot water to help unlog a toilet. I’ve had the porcelain crack from the heat, had to replace the toilet entirely. Lesson learned.

    • reattach@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      15 hours ago

      My kid flushed a rubber ball down the toilet before - it was exactly the right size and squishyness to get stuck. After trying many things, I was able to get it out by removing the toilet and pouring in boiling water - it softened the ball enough for it to be flushed out.

      It sounds like I got lucky. It was a warm day iirc - maybe that helped with the thermal stress.

      • MeatPilot@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        Similar issue, my wife knocked the kids rubber ducky into the toilet well flushing it. A complicated maneuver because she hit it with her elbow knocking the ducky off the top of the tank exactly as she hit flush. Had to auger it to the bottom of the toilet and than unbolt it from the floor and yank it out from the bottom hole because it wouldn’t go past the lip where the toilet met the drain. Honestly probably better it didn’t go into the pipes and get jammed somewhere else I suppose.

        Guess I did all the way up to step 7?

        And, yes I remind her of this folly regularly.

  • Hikermick@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    15 hours ago

    There is always the possibility the clog isn’t in the toilet itself but further down the drain. You can test this by running faucets and seeing if the sinks drain properly

  • saltnotsugar@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    A cheap method to unblock anything:

    • Remove any loose material.
    • Now pour 30 gallons of jet fuel in the area.
    • Ignite it but stand back at least a few feet.
        • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          15 hours ago

          If the toilet is actively flushing, water will continue to drain from the tank to the bowl. Closing the flapper stops any additional water from going into the bowl.

          Personally, I prefer to make sure the tank only fills enough to fill the bowl, so as long as you don’t double flush, you don’t need to panic and throw the lid off the tank.

          • kungen@feddit.nu
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            14 hours ago

            Hmm, that’s maybe also why American toilets get clogged all the time if they release the water so slowly? Mine empties the entire tank and stops filling the bowl after like a second or two, regardless if it got blocked or not. I can’t even reach any kind of “stopper” in the tank without opening the entire thing

          • deranger@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            17 hours ago

            Those are the only toilets I’m familiar with, at least with regards to maintenance and troubleshooting.

            I’ve cleared a lot of clogged shitters, not once have I had to ensure the flapper is down in the reservoir. That’s “why won’t it stop running” not “why won’t I the water go down”.

            • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              15 hours ago

              Once the flapper lifts, it won’t close again until the tank empties completely. If the toilet clogs and you try too many times to flush it down instead of breaking out the plunger right away; sometimes the water can’t overflow out of the bowl fast enough to let the tank drain fully, so it just endlessly flows. Doesn’t happen to all toilets, but it’s still good to know when your toilet full of turds just won’t stop dumping water on the floor.

                • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  15 hours ago

                  Turning off the water will stop the tank from refilling. Closing the flapper stops the water in the tank from going into the bowl.

                  I would imagine most people aren’t fast enough on the draw to think about doing this first step.

                • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  15 hours ago

                  That’s another option. Sometimes there is no valve immediately beside the toilet, sometimes it’s crusty af and won’t turn or seal. This can be quicker.

            • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.worksOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              17 hours ago

              If you flush once and it doesn’t go down no problem, if you (or someone you know) tries to flush again no water will leave but the toilet valve tries to fill the bowl more.

              So step one is to stop a potential flood of nasty water from overflowing to the floor

            • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              16 hours ago

              Sorry, I see what you mean. In this case, the stopper will stay open until the bowl reaches a certain fill limit, set by a float keeping the thing open; you’re trying to stop the bowl from filling more while it’s clogged so you have to close the valve in the tank manually.

              The image shows the tank almost empty, but in reality it will probably still have enough water in there to cause a mess if you don’t stop it.

        • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          15 hours ago

          I’m picturing a person panicking and swatting the whole tank off the toilet, breaking the water line and spraying water everywhere.

  • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Step four, you want to pull the fluid column up to unstick the trash, so go slow ‘down’ and somewhat more forceful on the ‘up’.

    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      13 hours ago

      I’m guessing it’s to break down the fat / grease in the poop.

      The hot water will speed up the reaction, with the added benefit of possibly expanding the pipe just enough to make a difference.

      Just a guess, though!

    • Jrockwar@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      15 hours ago

      I’ve had success with just dish soap - it makes blockages “slide” more easily.

      In the last flatshare I lived, I had a particularly annoying combination of a slow toilet and a flatmate incapable of solving any blockages. Whenever I’d see that, I’d go “fuck this”, squirt a silly amount of Fairy in the bowl (I’m talking like 100 ml at least) and usually the blockage would resolve itself overnight.