The only activity on that instance is the admin, the nazi and hexbears.

If an instance is making it more difficult to maintain a safe space for marginalized people on hexbear, that’s when it needs to be axed. But it seems to me that a lot of these “yes, defederate!” arguments are more just about how obviously wrong and bad the mods and admins of these other instances are. And yes, they are wrong and bad, they’re fucking disgusting. But by cutting ourselves off from ever being able to even see the shit they post, are we helping hexbear be a better place, or are we only making it so our correct analyses and perspectives are seen by even fewer people (including lurkers and potential comrades on the sidelines)? I’m not saying I have the answer to that question, I do lean more towards it being the latter, but maybe I’m wrong.

The most interesting threads to me are often the ones where hexbears, lemmygraders, and some .ml’s are schooling the libs and tearing down the fash. When we defederate from the instances where said libs and fash think they won’t get any pushback, we not only make it so those threads don’t happen for us anymore (and I respect those who prefer that, dgmw), it also makes it so all that disgusting shit goes more unopposed on the rest of the “lemmyverse.” It also makes it so our comrades on .ml, those who do speak up to counter the lies, are more likely to get dogpiled into silence without hexbears even knowing, let alone being able to come to their aid in the posting trenches.

It looks like this is already a landslide for “yes” but I still just have to say that I feel like by doing that we’re just making it easier for them and (while it might seem parodoxical) worse in the long run for us, for reasons similar to what others like @[email protected] and @[email protected] already said elsewhere in this thread.

No, because reform and opening up must continue.

I don’t care either way, never remember interacting with them. But I do love a close race, give my vote to the losing side please.

I don’t have strong feelings either way. They’ll probably defed from us on their own eventually.

No.

I always learn something whenever we bully people and the folks here bring out their paragraphs of sources.

I have no idea what this discourse is about, but any opportunity to have fewer white Europeans interacting with us on a daily basis is objectively a win.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an @europe.pub user here having good opinions, like I fairly frequently do with @lemmy.db0.com users, for example.

how do we bully them if we defed

Make them defederate so they can remain Nazis. The only reason to cut contact should be to protect users and in the words of the bard: “cyber bullying isn’t real!”

so we can free the brainwashed people who claim to be Santa’s elves in the land of the North Poles.

Reverse this vote if the users in question are causing material harm to Hexbears

that nitwit ukrainian nazi/ukrainian nazi apologist came on the news comm recently and she was apparently a mod there? they’re not sending their best, folks.

Dont infringe on our right to bully fascists.

Yes, I’d let transfem.social admins to check the europe.pub content before deciding to defederate