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    9 minutes ago

    I don’t understand the pageantry behind all this. We all know this will end one of two ways. Either he’s found guilty and killed, or he’s set free and the powerful have him killed anyway.

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    6 hours ago

    Sucks this guy sits in a jail cell for a crime he didn’t commit. I keep trying to tell people that Luigi Mangione was fishing with me and my roommate that day, but nobody listens.

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      51 minutes ago

      No he couldn’t have been. He was at a sex party with me in Oakland. Weird to have a straight guy there, but someone insisted. Had a thing for smarmy Italians, so I couldn’t really object.

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        That’s strange, I was out with him having a meal that day when he supposedly was doing the thing he’s accused of… Certainly you must be thinking of a different day…

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    10 hours ago

    That has been a constant factor from the beginning. They were issuing warnings about him being “armed and dangerous”. Meanwhile social media was laughing at the cops, saying they had nothing to fear, with many saying they would help shelter him if given the option. They set him up with a dozen heavily armed cops bullet resistant gear, etc. for transport and within the same week there were multiple murderers being escorted by just two cops casually walking.

    The media, the cops and the prosecution has been trying to paint him as a violent and dangerous criminal. Meanwhile the only people with something to fear, are the very wealthy and cops.

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      5 hours ago

      Luigi Mangione confirmed to me there really is a loosely organized cabal of extremely rich people keeping the flow of information under control.

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    No, no, don’t pay any attention to the company behind the curtain. They certainly didn’t send a bunch of their trusting customers and or their family members to the grave. No, no, it’s completely inconsequential to the case.

    This hell spawn shot that poor innocent oligarch, er um, family man, complicating his trust fund err…

    I said don’t look behind the curtain!

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    15 hours ago

    I’ve yet to see any proof Luigi was in New York that day. How has the prosecution not released photos of him leaving central park by now? It’s basically impossible to get into or out of the park without cross at least one camera path. Unless of course, they know he didn’t do it but fucked up their investigation so bad they’ll never find the real shooter and just pinning it on some patsy they already had on a watch list.

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        11 hours ago

        Well lets stick to facts. He was arrested at McDs 3 days after the murder.

        However, nothing of what he supposedly had in his possession makes sense, especial with the revelation his bag was searched illegally off camera before they finally turned on a body cam to search it.

        MO doesn’t make sense that he would go through efforts to hide his identity in New York and ditch clothing backpack but keep the fake IDs, gun and manifesto saying everything cops would want to hear on his person 3 days later.

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    13 hours ago

    its biasing us for Luigi, the more they try to do that the more attention they bring, which is why they mostly stopped reporting him in the news.

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    The most important aspect of this that I think most people are missing is that they are specifically trying to bias the public into thinking he definitely did it. There is no “allegedly” in how they’ve treated him, they are actually using the positive public sentiment about what he did to continue to build the idea that it was definitely him and we don’t need to go to court to prove it. The public loving Mangione and believing he definitely did it is actually in many ways beneficial to their case. It helps solidify the idea in the general public eye that “he did it” before any court case has looked at the facts.

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      Innocent until proven guilty, but if you say anything about that they’ll probably nix you from the jury pool so if you get selected just act dumb

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      I definitely don’t. He’s a hero because he’s innocent and stood bravely against abusive treatment by the state. Too much fuckery for me to believe even hard evidence presented before my eyes. We know when we’re being fucked with.

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          That’s why making sure potential jurors are educated on jury nullification, how it works, and how to not be prematurely dismissed as a juror is so important.

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              Basically it means that you can return whatever verdict you want as long as you don’t say something stupid like “I don’t actually believe this by the way.”

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                  You don’t believe in the public being part of the decision making about which laws are just? That’s part of democracy.

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          Find one person, and I mean one that isn’t skewed by knowing the context of the case. Jury nullification is the correct course when it’s very, very clear that the prosecution is acting in bad faith. I have no idea the facts, I do know the prosecution is lying about the narrative because we’re not stupid.

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              11 hours ago

              They choose a pool of jurors randomly. You don’t need to pretend to be uninformed until you’re in the room (unless you comment under your real name), where they select the actual jurors after each side has excluded some

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    Well, good luck. /s

    The stupid bastards would have a hard time throwing a stone anywhere in any American city without hitting someone who’s been fucked over or had their family damaged/destroyed by an insurance company.

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      Well, the feds did it to themselves. Rather than focusing on the crime of murder, they focused on the victim, who is completely unrelatable, and generally disliked, then they focused on the motive, which they presented in the context of “it was pre-meditated!” And everyone just saw a very relatable person in the accused and collectively we all kind of went “mood” … So I’m not sure what they expected, but that CEO guy that’s not important enough to remember the name of, who died, is not the victim here.

      The victims are all the people that were denied while CEO guy was in charge, denied by the policies he put in place, promoted, demanded that people enforce, or any of the above… Luigi is just the latest in a long line of victims that this guy has caused suffering to.

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      15 hours ago

      I don’t even know that he’s a hero. We don’t have any proof he did it. He’s guy they are framing.

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    Good luck with that! This guy does a saint no matter what heinous shit he does/has done.

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    They’re gonna a have to try harder lol

    Altho isn’t influencing public opinion not part of a prosecutors mission?

    Seems like the prosecution isn’t doing their job like they’re supposed to

    Also the police

    And the mayor

    Also that dead CEO guy. He had a job to do. He did it wrong and paid himself instead of paying for people’s health insurance.

    That’s why he’s dead

    That’s also why they need to “convince” people he’s bad.

    Because what he’s accused of doing is extremely popular.

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      Influencing public opinion is not part of a prosecution’s mission. Their mission is to seek justice and win in court. (Edit: contrary to below, it’s supposed to be overall about justice, which is why prosecutors have discretion to not try cases and have other roles like support of victims)

      Trying to influence the public is actually BAD for prosecutors since it can bias a jury pool and cause a court to grant a change of venue.

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        We don’t have a “justice” system. We have a “legal” system. Prosecutors only seek wins (at any cost) - not justice.

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          That’s generous. I’d go with “penal” system, because they only care about taking and punishing. No justice without reform, rehab, and introspection.

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          pretty much why people hate jury duty, they bias the JD people against either side(stronger on one side if one side have a pretty weak case), and they only pick the ones that dont know how to talk thier way out of JD, additionally people already incensed of being out of work, and have to work with the courts that are biased against poor people and POCs. also they treat jurors like shit anyways, pay them next to nothing per day for being a juror, let alone they for jurors to wait days or hours for being selected too.