We sit around and bitch about the corporations caving to the alt-Reich, about Congress people just giving in to Trump, about ICE not having a conscience to do the things they do.
Yet as long as we only sit and bitch, as long as we’re not fighting back in some way, we are also complicit in what our country’s government does.
If you honk your horn to warn people ICE is around, you are protecting them. If you protest the regime, others will see that there’s are others standing up and this is not inevitable. If you call your Congress people, you are telling them what the will of the people is, and that people are watching their actions. You don’t have to do everything, but you should be doing something.
How can you expect corporations to care or Congress people to have a spine, if you won’t even pick up a phone? Courage, and consciences, are contagious.
I’ve been at the other no kings protests and been emailing my senators and reps in NC almost every week for the last 4 months. They keep responding only with the Faux News false information but if they won’t give in they I most certainly will not either. Ensure every week they and their staff have to face what they’re doing.
Protest at their homes, and keep doing it day in and day out til they cave. they’ll start listening
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People want to make an impact they should do it on fucking Black Friday. You need to hit capitalism where it hurts.
Do that too, but protesting gives folks the opportunity to connect with local resistance organizations and make a real, ongoing impact.
Sure just like the last one, am I right?
Exactly. Resistance movements take work and time. Or were you expecting instant results with zero time investment?
This shit started 30-40 years ago. How much time do you need?
Depends. How recently did most of the population wake up to the fact that they’re getting a raw deal?
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You need to translate this to political power at the city and state levels. Sweep out the meek Democrats and legislate the resistance: force local police to not cooperate, ban masks, make it easy to acquit people resisting, pass personal liberty laws, etc. Then ratfuck the feds any chance you get. Get your municipalities to do roadworks at the access points to ICE buildings, cut off their water and electricity for maintenance, slow them the fuck down. Put up an actual resistance. Come on yanks, you can do it!
Thank you for encouragement rather than disdain. I mean it.
I participated in the first. I wish a single person cared or a single thing changed.
I mean… were there other people present at the protest?
Probably at least one single person cares. Maybe a few married people too.
Hard to have a protest by yourself.
I don’t mean the people at the protest. Im fairly certain you know what I mean.
Yeah, I just don’t like defeatist talk. It smells like astroturfing.
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How?
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Late to the party, but I’ll bet at least a few right wingers we’re surprised at the turnout. Maybe helped get a few people out of their bubbles, seeing neighbors and friends out on the street. Maybe not, but I know i saw a lot of older rural folks out protesting last time that I’m sure rocked the perceptions some right wings nuts have about it all being teenage anarchists in the street.
Did you join your local resistance organizations who were recruiting at the protest, so you could continue the fight?
I signed up with a person there to get text alerts about the next meet up. Never got a text.
Maybe try again, this time with a different org? The big secret about “organizing” is that it’s often not very organized.
Show up armed next time.
And do what?
relaying words from a handmade sign I saw at the last one: “Don’t Underestimate The Power Of Just Showing Up.”
But, like, don’t overestimate it either.
Be careful. Im fearful of a false flag type operation where something violent happens and is immediately blamed on the left, when in realityitll be far right thugs. Leave your phones at home and don’t give these thugs a reason to place blame on us for violence
i keep saying; do not let fear hold you back! the gop will do the things you fear no matter what, if nothing happens, they will invent a cause. might as well go down swinging
Monday to Friday people… not on weekends
See you out there
I don’t understand. Where was this energy when it came to voting? I understand Kamala wasn’t exciting but cmon.
I understand Kamala wasn’t exciting
If you think this is why people stayed home, you understand nothing. Or you understand perfectly well and never want the party to ever move to the left at all.
The party will never move left because people don’t show up to vote in primaries. Then they barely show up in generals. And if Dems ever win, the house only barely gets slim a super majority. So no meaningful legislation gets passed. So then the Dems base gets disillusioned and they barely show up to vote in the next election and the cycle continues.
Then people on Lemmy come to complain that the party isn’t “left enough” << you are here now
The party will never move left because people don’t show up to vote in primaries.
The primaries we didn’t have last year. The primaries that the party successfully argued in court that it doesn’t have to run fairly. The primaries in which the party protects centrist incumbents like coathanger cuellar from all challenges, but won’t do shit to protect progressive incumbents like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman, since their primary opponents were bought by AIPAC.
Stop gloating that the primaries are run for the benefit of your wing of the party.
And if Dems ever win, the house only barely gets slim a super majority. So no meaningful legislation gets passed.
Stop making excuses.
If Biden had died rather than just being old, noone would’ve questioned it
the fact that biden was running at all with everyone knowing he was unfit is disguising. he wasn’t faring any better the Harris. AND the democrats are currently dog pilling progressive candidates for lower positions right now! what are you guys talking about!
But he didn’t. She wasn’t the incumbent, no matter what her supporters say.
I’m sorry. Either you
a) start your own party and put in the work
b) put in the work and reform the democratic party. Mamdani is doing it. Bernie is doing it. AOC is doing it.
c) Go on Lemmy and complain endlessly about the status quo and dream about some distant utopia in the future.
I know what I see on Lemmy day in and out soooooo…
I’m sorry.
You’re not. You get everything you want out of the democratic party without having to lift a finger. Especially the genocide support.
I see we’re back at option ©. Keep at it, man. Some day things will change for you. Cheers.
Condescension after gloating isn’t any better.
I don’t have the means for a or b and like I said, you get everything you want from democrats without doing anything.
You must be so disappointed now that there’s a ceasefire. Don’t worry, it won’t last. netanyahu’s good faith exists in equal abundance to your own.
a) start your own party and put in the work
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Glad you acknowledge that option, lots of people on here get mad when I say I voted PSL
Yer not dumb, but you are led by those pulling your nose rings.
You know what… Yer right: let’s sit on Lemmy and bitch endlessly
How do you know that most of those are not people who voted for Harris?
She was boring. This is exciting. People don’t vote because of their thoughts, they vote because of their feelings.
She was boring.
Government should be boring.
In the presence of fascism, government should in no way shape or form be boring. Now you see why she lost. In the presence of fascism, progressive and opposition politics wins, not neoliberal racist shit.
If your governmental opposition to fascism is boring, you will lose time and time again.
You dont understand jack shit!
Well Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. We even had a trial run. Now everyone is surprised Pikachu all of a sudden.
Going outside on a Saturday isn’t “energy”. This is a clown show for the purposes of easing white liberals’ guilt over their inaction.
Possibly. I’m really starting to take Chomsky seriously when he says the collective memory window is very short
But she’s brown AND a woman.
And a neoliberal genocidal racist.
Wow. Such brave.
“Millions to protest trump”
What the fuck does that mean? Im definitely not on board with some vague bullshit like that.
We dont know what these people actually want…
Are you saying you don’t know what “Protest Trump” means?
No, and in fact, you might think you know what it means, but you dont, because you can’t “protest” a person. Thats not how you use that word…
Okay fair enough, but it’s pretty obviously a protest against his administration and MAGA movement which he represents.
Maybe do an internet search for “no kings protest” and it will suddenly be less vague to you. Well, not suddenly… You’ll actually have to read some things
Fuck No Kings. It’s a Democrat controlled, pro-Israel, pro-cop, and anti-trans group. They’re trying to absorb activist energy by pretending to be an activist org, and redirecting people to the Dems. They’ve also called the cops on leftists that show up to protests.
Reddit admins have been removing leftist mods, and installing Democrat operatives, who then turn it into a No Kings advert. See r/ChaoticGood
Have you considered that you are off the mark here and being a little of a conspiracist.
By just accurately stating what the org has been doing?
Do you have proof?
Just statements from the activists and groups the No Kings/50501 organizers have been going after. But if you’d like to find out for yourself, wear a keffiyeh or wave a trans flag at the next No Kings protest.
Make sure you have bail and someone to get you out. The organizers are having the cops detain leftists. And do not put your name on their attendee list. Don’t help them compile a list of anti-fascist citizens. The No Kings/50501 org leaders have been openly coordinating with law enforcement. Which shouldn’t be surprising, since the org leaders are all former congressional staffers.
Some of my friends were at the last one, covered in trans flags. Nobody had an issue with them. They were handing them out to other people as well.
Which city/chapter? Seems like some of the local chapters aren’t enforcing the national org’s guidance on it.
I’m not seeing anything about trans people in that article. Or Israel. Or in fact the Democratic Party being in control. Yes, they said they were willing to work with police to make sure the event stays peaceful, but that was all.
The No Kings stuff is organized by Democrat congressional staffers. Yes, it’s not mentioned in the article. You might have to investigate for yourself.
If you don’t believe me, show up waving a trans or Palestine flag. See how it’s been going for those who’ve tried at their other rallies. Or try signing up people for DSA or PSL. They’ll sic the cops on you.
Yes, it’s not mentioned in the article. You might have to investigate for yourself.
You made the claim.
If you don’t believe me, show up waving a trans or Palestine flag. See how it’s been going for those who’ve tried at their other rallies.
You made the claim.
Is the link not working for anyone else?
Fixed.
Uhh citation needed. Nobody I know working on No Kings locally is pro-Democrat, pro-Israel, pro-cop, or anti-trans. I also don’t know of any leftists who had the cops called on them at a No Kings protest.
A citation means “A source that says the thing that you were claiming” not just “A news article”.
I’m not about to share with you the results of the latest dog show…
It’s literally an article with the No Kings organizers bragging about working with the cops.
That is only one of the four groups you boldly declared. And “working with” the police doesn’t mean supporting them. Support for police would be things like giving them extra firepower, granting them warrants, paying into their pension fund.
You’re still zero for four.
LoL. So now it doesn’t count if they sic the cops on leftists at the rallies, since they’re not contributing to their pension? Wild.
Sorry, where does that say pro-Democrat, pro-Israel, pro-cop, or anti-trans? Working with cops to further the shared goal of non-violence for this event doesn’t mean one supports the system of policing. That’s like saying by voting, you support the system of first-past-the-post.
You could try doing even the slightest bit of work to see who’s actually organizing this, and what they stand for.
Okay.
generally protest organizers of any sort (like macy’s, easter, pride ) work with the gov and police- if the protest is to be legal. not that it has to be or needs to be legal (like dyke march.)
Hahaha. Good one. Cracking me up dude.
No one believes that it was the democrats who took over chaotic good.
Well then weird that after the takeover they immediately changed all of the images to No Kings, a Democrat org.
I agree, that is quite weird.
It’s almost like someone nefarious co-opted the No Kings protest topic to trick people.
But would someone really just go on the internet and lie like that?
Trick people into what? Now it’s conspiratorial to say the people promoting an event are affiliated with it?
