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dead [he/him]@hexbear.net to videos@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Hasan Piker shows support for Palestine on Piers Morgan show

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Hasan Piker shows support for Palestine on Piers Morgan show

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dead [he/him]@hexbear.net to videos@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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Piers Morgan vs HasanAbi On Palestine-Israel Conflict and War | The Full Interview
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Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Twitch streamer and political commentator HasanAbi aka Hasan Piker to debate and discuss the Israel-Hamas war and the hi...
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    I can’t bring myself to watch Piers Morgan a second time in less than a week. How did Hasan do?

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      Pretty well. He kept getting interrupted by the bastard, and some of his points may have been incomplete for it since he was shouted over by Piers, he had hella names/quotes to back up the positions he was claiming everyone had on each side off-hand.

      Piers ended it with, “Well, if it was as easy [as your solution], I’m sure it would have been done already,” dismissive twat, instead of acknowledging what Palesteniand deserve, like Hasan did at the end, rights-wise.

      For being called a propagandist, he did a shite job disproving the fact.

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        I think Hasan handled that distraction well. Piers clearly thinks that “propagandist” means “state-sponsored journalist”. Hasan said it as an offhand comment and then quickly shamed Piers for going on a tangent about how good his own reputation is.

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        Match Point - Hasan

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      Morgan kept trying to talk over Hasan (because that’s the only way he knows how to “win” a “debate”), but Hasan kept calling him out on it.

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        because that’s the only way he knows how to “win” a “debate”

        lib-status

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      I made it a couple minutes in before I wanted to do harm to Piers and had to turn it off

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        It gets better in the second “round”. Hasan slow-rolled him and made him the fool, in my opinion.

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          well i’ve had my weekend water so maybe i’ll try again

          it may not help at all

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    Is Piers Morgan uniquely awful or are they all like that? He invites on some bloke just to completely ignore and talk over them the whole time unless they’re decisive enough to tell him to shut the fuck up.

    • DayOfDoom [any, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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      Even other right wingers like Jeremy Clarkson don’t like Piers Morgan. He fucking sucks.

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        Because he’s a coward

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          You can still edit that to not use gendered language you know

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            Since you asked, I will

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              sankara-salute we’re all improving ourselves comrade

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                Always. Also, MF_COOM is a great username. Have you seen the perpetrator?

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                  Thanks but honestly @[email protected] has me beat

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    • sloth [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      He is super awful.

      The joke is Piers only brings on guests so terrible that they make him look good in comparison, in the eyes of the general public. Andrew Tate, Kanye West in his Nazi era, etc…

      Sometimes it backfires.

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    • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      the type of people who watch right wing pundits admire that kind of behavior. it get ratings.

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      He is especially bad and does that whenever a leftist person is on

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    palestine-heart

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    Jeremy Clarkson may be a wanker but at least he punched Piers Morgan in the face once

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      link please?

      • mkultrawide [any]@hexbear.net
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        It’s not on video. It’s because Morgan published photos of Clarkson cheating on his wife when Morgan was editor of The Daily Mirror.

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          oh, that must have been when he was “heading major publications, doing journalism”.

          Cheers mate!

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          I can’t believe Morgan actually did something based. Is that real?

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            Don’t get too excited, he also hacked a dead girl’s voicemail

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    I wish he would have had a quarter of the contempt for Piers as he has for his chat.

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      Wouldn’t want to go that hard on the show, for the optics

      also his chat does suck lmao

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        Hasan is just a babysitter for libs

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      “Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.” mlk-yes

      hasan-smash CHAT! WHAT THE FUCK!!! YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS ALREADY!!!

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        I reread letter from a Birmingham jail the other day and for a brief, wonderful moment I thought that one line about Hungarian freedom fighters doing the right thing despite it not being legal was MLK Jr formally endorsing tankies

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      He did call him a “baboon in a suit propagandist”!!!

      Funny to me the baboon thing wasn’t really discussed but Piers seemed pretty defensive about the propagandist accusation.

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        In the edited video that was published after originally aired, they edited out the part at the beginning where Piers plays the clip of Hasan said he’d love to go on Piers’s show and call him a baboon in a suit (but not the part where Piers talks about it). Maybe Piers realized in retrospect how petty he looked

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          Fancy that.

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          If this was Hasan playing 4D Chess to get himself on the show and embarrass him, well done on his part.

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      Hasan killed it, as much as he could have in. Letting Piers interrupt him for the first segment, asking if he could finish only twice before letting Piers shout over him, lulling him into a false sense of security and control.

      Then in the next round Hasan absolutely steamrolls over his pleading opponent begging to get a word in, drops the APARTHEID STATE haymaker and reversing the “do you condemn” chokehold.

      All while making Piers look like the absolute self-centered propagandist he began the show protesting he was. Fucking masterful.

      I think I understand boxing now.

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          Yes!*

          *see above in thread

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      Bassem was more entertaining imo. Opening up with that joke about trying to murder his wife was a strong choice.

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        Dude found a way to make the one boomer joke funny.

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        I’ve been replaying that shit like five times just to try to remember what it feels like to have emotions other than quiet despair

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    our himbo did good

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    It’s kinda hilarious that mainstream TV is dragging themselves down to the level of a twitch stream

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      Piers Morgan probably brought him on because “oh, he’s just a Twitch streamer. I could easily beat him.”

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      make that two

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    A part of me wonders if perhaps Piers intentionally got Hasan to just keep the discussion in regards to whether he’s (Hasan) a propagandist and making stuff up than have a direct discussion about the ethnic cleansing going on, either that or Piers took it really personally to be called a propagandist.

    It’s funny that Hasan has criticized one or two other people Piers spoke to about what’s happening in Gaza, talking about what they should’ve said, but let himself get bogged down in something arguably trivial.

    Also doesn’t help that Piers feels like he’s got a lib’s capability of understanding context; Every time a guest of his tried to give context for what’s happening in Israel-Palestine, I look at Piers and I can almost hear the sound of crickets. If you can’t given an ‘in a nutshell’ answer, you’re gonna get nowhere with him, and the conflict between Israel and Palestine is complex, insomuch as ‘Israel has committed unending cruelty and viciousness in the region and never stopped pretending to be the true victim the whole time’ is a simplified understanding of the complex nature of butchery, warmongering, belligerence, terrorism and genocide that led to what Israel is today.

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      It’s easy to criticize while a discussion is happening I guess, less pressure and less in your head

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        Honestly the best part of the discussion happened at the very end, when Piers asked what could be done about the violence and Hasan suggested that Palestinians should be made full citizens with the right to vote and the Palestinians who’d been forced out given the right to return and Piers quickly dodged the question with a half-hearted “if it was as simple as that I’m sure it would’ve happened already”. God I wish Hasan had gotten on him for that; Piers invites people to ask them what can be done, and when an entirely reasonable suggestion is made, it ISN’T discussed, just handwaved away!

        Piers made it look like he’s up for discussions, but immediately dodged that with a stupid response rather than have a serious discussion about it; I deeply wish Hasan hadn’t let himself get bogged down for so much of the conversation, and frankly I don’t even believe Piers had to end it there, I’m 90% convinced he didn’t want to be grilled about this.

        Every Jewish person on the planet has been given the right to return to Israel, so why not allow Palestinians the same right? Literally what difference would it make what their nationality or religion is? God I really wish he’d pushed him on this. I’ve a feeling Piers would’ve ‘realized’ he only has a whole two minutes for his show if he’d been forced to address it early.

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    “How am I a propagandist?” The answer is so easy, just ask: “who is paying your salary?” Hexbear thinks hasan did well but I thought he dropped the ball here.

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