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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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'Busification' - forced conscription - is the tip of the iceberg for Ukraine's military crisis

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'Busification' - forced conscription - is the tip of the iceberg for Ukraine's military crisis

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Ukraine's 'Busification' — forced conscription — is tip of the iceberg
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Western media is largely ignoring that Kyiv has to rip young men off the streets amid recruitment shortages and desertions
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  • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I believe that members of the public [in the UK and US] would express serious concerns. Yet the Western media remains largely silent, and I find it difficult to understand why.

    orly

    It’s cute watching liberals try to make sense of the world

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Noooooo Ukraine is heckin’ epic and wholesome they’d never pressgang elderly men to fight and beat them to death when they resist!

  • Clippy [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    in a completely unserious nsfw tangent that may be interpreted as disrespectful;

    i can’t be the only person who read “Busification” and think oh this is the process of making “Bussy”.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      They’re clearly trying to win support from hexbear users

    • fannin [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think you’re onto them

    • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      bussification bottom-speak

    • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Couldn’t be me

    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I was curious if that was their method of enticing recruits, but was too scared it was to read more than headline.

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    Serious question, how are liberals coping with this? There’s been more articles coming out about it recently. I’m wondering if they’re bloodthirsty enough to call these people cowards.

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      not-listening

      or it’s ruzzian [sic] propaganda

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      simple, they just ignore this and pretend it’s not happening

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      the same way they were coping 3 years ago when I sent them videos of forced conscription: by saying russia does whatever ukraine does, but worse.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Just ask them for their source

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          1It is Known

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      Serious question, how are liberals coping with this?

      They ignore it and pretend it isn’t happening. They call it Russian propaganda. They say the videos were actually taken in Russia. They say the videos are AI. They say it’s only one or two isolated incidents. Or they just straight up justify it saying Ukrainians have a duty to defend their “freedom and democracy”. Take your pick.

      I’m wondering if they’re bloodthirsty enough to call these people cowards.

      Ukrainian politicians and the nationalists in the Ukrainian media definitely do. They go on Ukrainian TV and just openly say that everyone who doesn’t serve should have no rights as a citizen. In Europe they are trying very hard to get all male Ukrainian refugees to go back to Ukraine so they can be conscripted. Right now they are just scaling back on the money they give to refugees, but soon enough it may be deportations.

      Ironically these deportations won’t be done by the right wing (who only want to deport non-white people) but by liberals who are fanatically obsessed with fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.

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      They just ignore it or say “it’s worse in Russia therefore it resets” (and proceed to ignore it), or say that Russia is so evil that everything is justified to stop them (and proceed to ignore it).

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    Many include family members or friends fighting desperately to prevent their loved one being taken against his will.

    Obligatory

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    too easy

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    https://web.archive.org/web/20250426104451/https://uadraftmuseum.ch/incidents

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    So what, the west plans to just kill every Ukranian young man?

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