Normal people behave differently in different environments. This idea is too complicated for moralists, though.
the kids at a birthday party are acting different than at their grandma’s funeral. they must be evil two faced liers.
Don’t you mean moral-bankruptists 😂 ? Sorry bad joke I know
the opposite is also true. online I’m more talkative and confident, IRL I’m shy as fuck from lifelong trauma and masking. my online me and IRL me might as well be two different people.
Lemmy’s lack of total karma has only increased this effect for me. I just write whatever is on my mind because the Fediverse needs more stuff and there aren’t even digital consequences.
there are people who when let loose in an RPG are good because we would feel bad if we hurt an NPC’s feelings.
i think that’s the majority of people.
I treat online spaces like that. there’s no cost of being good, unlike IRL.
That’s not the opposite. It just the same thing in a different form. Offline you mask and online you don’t need the mask. Racist do the same exact thing.
The difference is that at their core they are deplorable and you are not. The masking is the shared trait.
yhea, it’s the same unmasking, one is just then being assholes and other is being good.
…you guys are real?
nah, I’m complex
I’M NOT IRRATIONAL, YOU ARE!
we shouldn’t hook up, two complex people hooking up always ends up negative
a foursome on the other hand is always a positive
allegedly
A real human bean, yessir
Nah, I’m just a figment of your imagination.
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Every time someone says that I check
I’m the illusion of a chicken
You’re new pet name is “Dino dream”.
how are you doing Dinodream?
Yes but only a countabe amount are rational, the vast majority are irrational; an uncountable infinite set.
This is true not only about shitty people. There’s a lot of very nice folks on Lemmy who would face evil consequences for being honest about who they are in real life. Until then, there’s Blahaj.
Oh yeah if a maga-hat wearer was in front of me, I’d probably be scared to say anything anti-trump…
I’m non-white and foreign-born.
What about Blahaj ? I’m curious.
I had a friend who fell into the far right crowd, even though he’s a brown immigrant. He constantly post far right content on Facebook. But looking back, he’s had that streak in him and it was perhaps only matter a time that he finally succumbed.
I think it has to be an empathy thing.
My older brother hates black people and “mexicans” (he means anyone with brown skin)
For context: My entire family wasn’t born in the US… We are all immigrants…
He also try to taunt me like “when you grow up, you’re gonna be a loser and marry a [n-word] or a ‘mexican’ since you are a loser just like them”
What The Fuck?
This is the least crazy thing he did, when he was like 10 or 11 and I was 5 or 6, he used plastic zipties and tied me up.
What The Fuck?!?
Always picking on me.
He used to put these pin things on the floor with the sharp pointy thing facing upwards, as a “prank” so I would accidentally step on it and get hurt.
Like WTF is this psycopathy?
But you see my point right? Lack of empathy. That’s how people become right wing.
Well the left & liberals drive a lot of good men to the right-wing’s lap with their dehumanization. There’s enough evidence of that.
Do people actually say “he’s not like that in real life”?
Yes, especially when they need to defend a nazi they know in real life.
Ok. I’ve never seen it, but I also don’t use Xitter, Mastodon, etc.
Back in the day it was… “Oh… They are not actually like that.”
Or “What they actually meant was…”
Or “They are such a jokester”
For example, we saw that a lot out of boomers and silent gen folks leading up to Trump’s first election. Quite a bit of dismissive language over behavior that should have caused him to be removed from candidacy.
Not to make it political… But that’s just a quick example that came to mind.
I have a friend like this. Absolutely vile on Facebook, but a decent person in RL. But I know that the online him is how he really is.
Have you considered maybe both are real and people aren’t just black and white?
How you behave when nobody’s looking is the kind of person you truly are. Internet is the same as the “nobody looking” part means that there are no consequences for your acts. So yeah, if you are evil on the internet… I have news for you.
The vile person is the real person, the offline persona is a facade. This is backed up by science.
No the internet is fake you’ve been imagining it this whole time
nobody is ‘like that’ in real life because there is way more context in real life.
on the interent a huge part of waht is interpreted is pure projection devoid of context. hence why people overreact to everything that they’d never react to if they heard irl.
it’s funny. i used to be part of a forum where i was super controversial, then people would meet me irl, confront me about how evil i was… and then end up agreeing with me when i restated my opinions with a face and a voice and a tone.
most people were often interpreting me in such a way as to believe i was saying the opposite of what i was saying… as in they were projecting their fears and insecurities onto my words. they didn’t do that as much face to face. after they met me face to face i went from being this ‘evil cruel bastard’ to the ‘kind and generous’ person.
i also notice that the insecure hateful people IRL, make stupid accusations about me projecting their behaviour onto me constantly.
i used to be part of a forum where i was super controversial, then people would meet me irl, confront me about how evil i was… and then end up agreeing with me when i restated my opinions with a face and a voice and a tone.
This.
I’m a pedantic asshole online, but I also like to help when I can. …but I’m still a pedant, even if I’m more generous.
I fully expect anything I say to be thrown back at me while AFK and out somewhere, and I fully believe as I write it that I can defend or support my opinions the same; just with less reference material because you can’t Google search in the middle of a lively debate.
It’s easy for our attempts to help others to start to wax flippant, or be taken with suspect motives; that’s normal for written-only comms and repeat nudges. It’s okay. I hope the day when someone says “hey asshole” I’ll be at my more rested and calm, and I can represent myself well.
Worst case is I appear in the real like I appear online, and I can accept that.
I just remember a time on the internet, esp early reddit, where it was all taken with good faith and good humor. communities you could swap stories and have fun and when people got super mad and rage quit it was funny. now a lot of content is rage-only engagement.
Now everyone wants to demonize you and damn you to hell and call you a Nazi loving baby rapist for liking a different brand a car than they do, or something totally inconsequential. or if you offer them a suggestion to a problem they present that they don’t like… again you are evil and immoral and awful. I don’t think people on the internet or anywhere, are inherently evil for being different than me and expressing differing opinions. what scares me is seeing that kind of thinking spill out into real life interactions.
I feel like I missed the whatever boat everyone got on. Social media probably. I hardly ever used any of it and when I did it was in a very limited way where it was like my 20 irl friends I followed. once it it start pushing crazy algorithm shit on me I stopped using it.
Who says this in the first place?
Victims of assholes.
are the people on it living?
Considering dead internet, there’s a good chance that they are not people or living (this is not an excuse to be mean online)
In the court case against The Pirate Bay founders, the prosecutor tried to get down with the kids and said “IRL”. And he got back something like
Perhaps unlike you, we know that what happens on the internet is real. We say AFK.
One of the most famous quotes from “to catch a predator” is one of the creeps whining “well, the internet and real life are two different things.”
It was a laughable excuse then and it still is now.
