In a response to US President Donald Trump’s latest threat to seize control of Greenland, the leaders of the Danish autonomous region’s five main political parties issued a joint statement late Friday declaring the future of the island should be decided by Greenlanders.
Hell, a lot of Americans don’t either at this point.
Who said they would even be “Americans”?
Ask the people of Venezuela: are they US citizens now?
Greenland will be just another poor banana republic. Under the thumb of Usa, and some stupid, corrupt governor.
I think a better group to ask would be Puerto Ricans. They are US citizens, but as far as I’m aware (not an American myself), being a citizen without any representation or voting rights means they get fucked over a lot.
Difference between Venezuela and Greenland is that for Venezuela, they are openly saying they want regime change and compliance, not annexation. For Greenland they’re explicitly calling for annexation.
Hypothetically, let’s say Denmark backs down and gives up Greenland (not gonna happen, but let’s assume). No way are the republicans going to give them senators and congresspeople, they’d immediately be opposed to the Republicans.
PR also doesn’t want to pay federal taxes.
I mean if you’re not given voting rights or representation, why would you want to pay taxes?
They’ve often (in the 90s) voted against statehood because they’re currently exempt from federal personal income tax. I guess my info is a bit dated. More recently they’ve (non-binding) voted about 56% for statehood.
Benefits of statehood include an additional $10 billion per year in federal funds, the right to vote in presidential elections, higher Social Security and Medicare benefits, increased minimum wage, and a right for its government agencies and municipalities to file for bankruptcy.
It’s not like the taxes in the U.S. actually go to anything useful though. You don’t have universal healthcare, childcare isn’t subsidised, neither is education, hell children can get into debt over school lunches, because they’re not provided either. There’s no public transport to speak of, the roads are absolutely dismal in places, the State doesn’t provide options for necessary infrastructure services.
I wouldn’t want to pay taxes in the U.S., it just seems to seep into private pockets. My work already does that, why should I let some rich cunts double dip?
USAid was pretty good. And our roads are pretty reasonable, mostly.
Where federal taxes are spent was fairly reasonable until this year. Could, of course, always be better. Obviously too much went to the military and the MIC.
A US Citizen in PR cannot vote. A US Citizen resident in a foreign country can.
This is regardless of where you are born, but in which US territory you last resided (eg proper state, Puerto Rico, etc)
If taxes weren’t one of your founding myths I would ask what’s the deal with not paying taxes, but yeah…
Greenlanders are 90% an indigenous Inuit people. They have every right to self determination, and to cast off Danish colonialism, that has a dark past: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/02/1133382
But they are also well aware that the US is not a liberator and has been and is going to be an even worse colonial power: https://youtube.com/shorts/rlz2EOQWJgg
I didn’t know that Greenlanders are 90% indigenous Inuit people.
I am even more concerned about an American invasion of Greenland now. No wonder Trump is treating Greenland like its unoccupied.
89.5% apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#Demographics
It’s worth noting that while colonialism in the past has not been good (that goes for almost all European countries…), Greenland is not a colony of Denmark today. Greenland as well as the Faroe Islands are part of the Kingdom of Denmark (which is not the same as Denmark, the country) and has their own government and everything.
So Trump don’t want them to be American either…
Can’t blame them one bit. I am one and I don’t want to be.
Trump has made light of the concerns of Denmark, a steadfast US ally that joined the United States in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Is that a French ‘told you so’?
Americans don’t want Greenlanders to be Americans either. We want them to be what they want to be. It’s our stupid president that wants Greenlanders to be American.
stephen miller like “ok well that will make this much easier”
Solidarity from Canada.
probably even many americans dont want to be
I mean, they would never be seen as such… they would be like Samoans or at best, Hawaiian natives…
Step one. Mass migration from mainland Europe to Greenland. At least 10M people should move to Greenland.
Step two. Sell Greenland to USA.
Step three. 10M Europeans turned Americans, flips the scale in USA politics.
Step four. USA finally takes care of school shootings, introduces exotic concepts like free healthcare and employee rights. Joins EU.
The same European that are electing fascists in their own countries?
No, the ones voting against exactly that.
You think those are the Europeans that would want to become Americans?
I think Europe is a more valuable target for fascism than Greenland, and tilting the vote would help with that.
Of course this is all kind of silly and a distraction anyway.
I can understand the idea behind this, but I guess this is not the choice of the Greelanders either.
Does not work.
These little 10 mill can only make the so-called democrats win once. That does not bring all these changes that you are dreaming of. Usa needs some much stronger change, before things can improve to any meaningful extend.
Why the hell would the onus be on Europe to fix the U.S. problems? European religious extremists are what fucked that place to begin with.
I’m still not clear on whether there are terrorists or weapons of mass destruction on Greenland?
Give it another month.
Great for Greenlanders to have a united voice, this helps their cause.
Sucks to be them then, because they already are Americans. Just not US Americans.
Where do you think Greenland is?
Edit: Do you know what, I immediately looked this up, and it is considered geographically to be part of North America, so I retract my snark. But I do still disagree with the sentiment of your comment.
Though a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with the European kingdoms of Norway and Denmark for more than a millennium, beginning in 986.
Fair. Think I was editing my comment while you were replying. However, I don’t think anyone outside of USA refers to themselves as American, particularly those people from Greenland.
