• oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.netM
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    Considering if all the uncommitted voters were added to Kamala’s share, she wouldn’t have won, I imagine they don’t feel bad at all. Kamala didn’t need Gaza protest non-votes to help her lose, she did that all by herself.

    If anything, annoyed that not only did the Democrats never bother to reach out then, afterwards they still didn’t bother trying to reach out. Not only did they not reach out to these potential voters, they actively pushed them away, doing things like refusing to allow any Palestinian anything during the DNC, DNC folks closing their ears and laughing, and Kamala making fun of pro-Palestine people.

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    why would they feel anything bad? democrats have made it perfectly clear they will not hold any police accountable with their brutality

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    There is no argument we can make or shame we can bring to bear that will stop zionists from trying to get away with everything that they possibly can. They know it’s existential and will use every possible tactic regardless of damage to non-zionist institutions or people. No zionist can be trusted to hold a position of influence.

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    If you supported a candidate who wanted to do genocide and alienated me as a voter, how do you feel about that decision today?

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    100% if you asked “Everyone who didn’t confront Kamala about her continued support for Israel, despite alienating voters, how do you feel about not confronting her and instead pretending our votes didn’t matter?” your question would either be deleted or caught by filters.

    Rather than confront Kamala about her defying her voters, people are treating her like she’s mentally incapable of making her own decisions and we all need to baby her. Why did Biden drop out? Because he got old and was having mental issues, and yet I thought winning against Trump was supposed to be the goal here, it’s almost like candidate has to be capable of earning votes.

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    IDF | ICE | CBP | ACAB

    If you are going to bootlick Kamala for losing, then you are bootlicking all the others too.

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    Oh so you’re against killing hundreds of thousands of palestinians huh? Well thanks to you opposing that a few more high-profile AMERICANS have died!! Feel bad now?! smuglord

    Yeah all the killings of fellow human beings suck. But a) Dems are very likely to have basically done the same, with fewer headlines. and b) Libs never seem to grasp the scale of mass-murder that’s always occurring, and the necessity of dismantling the system that makes that happen, rather than just supporting 98% Hitler and being smug about it.

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      a) Dems are very likely to have basically done the same, with fewer headlines

      More people were deported under Biden than Trump 1 and Kamala ran on being even stricter on border control[1]


      1. The liberal defense to this is that biden technically didn’t “deport” people but used another legal method of kicking out immigrants from the country. Practically this means nothing, but on paper it means decorum ↩︎

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      But a) Dems are very likely to have basically done the same, with fewer headlines

      let’s not discredit ourselves acting like these occupations of cities are something democrats would do on their own. libs want a negative peace, republicans don’t care.

      a Harris administration would be orderly and polite about it with warrants and other correct paperwork to justify their crimes against humanity.

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        Perhaps not by the same means, but under Democrats, there was still widespread police brutality and murder of unarmed innocents. People were still living under the fear of violence, torture and being forcibly ripped out of their homes by ICE. I don’t personally see a big difference between ‘negative peace’ and what’s happening now. We still largely agree really.