• UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    I just don’t believe a conspiracy like this is feasible. If Epstein was still alive, it would’ve been out by now. We saw how they just straight up go “Yeah I’m bringing some 12-year-olds to the island on Sunday” and “Wow dude loved the torture video” in their emails but when it comes to faking his death everyone suddenly has perfect OpSec? Nah. And besides, what about Maxwell? They gave Epstein a mansion in Tel Aviv and surgery to change his face or whatever but just let Maxwell go to prison? And she’s fine with that?

    For the people who would be capable of orchestrating all of this, it would be so much simpler and safer to just kill him, and that’s what they did. 0% chance he’s still alive.

    • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 days ago

      They gave Epstein a mansion in Tel Aviv and surgery to change his face or whatever but just let Maxwell go to prison? And she’s fine with that?

      Not saying I buy into this theory but I guess the thinking here would be to use Maxwell to “clear” the names of Trump and Clinton like she’s currently offering for amnesty.

    • Wakmrow [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      2 days ago

      I mean the opsec is pretty much the same to kill him or swap him. And, to your secrecy point: they openly operated a pedophileremoved island for decades and it wasn’t in the news.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 days ago

      When assets outlive their usefulness, they are unceremoniously dumped, and when assets prove to be a liability, they are mercilessly liquidated. Epstein has outlived his usefulness and was becoming a liability. If he didn’t die in his prison cell, then they made an example out of him by torturing him to death and dumping his body into the sea.

      • DerRedMax [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        3 days ago

        Sorry about your Dad. Mine died about nine months ago and it is just starting to really hit. Our relationship was… complicated.

        Nothing to add to the conversation, but I like your posts and I hope you are doing okay.

        • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          Yeah same. It gets weird. I’m quite good and it’s been years but you get weird reminders and feelings over bizarre things. Nothing that makes me sad just… Odd feelings? I can’t describe it tbh.

          …Actually scratch that, I do occassionally get angry and it’s because I blame the covid response for failure to extend his life somewhat more and the lack of oxygen the ambulance team had due to shortages. I also get viscerally angry about how much of his life was spent on being exploited for him to go out like that. I wasn’t even close to him but I feel rage on his behalf in part because while he was terminal I know he was angry at the world too because he occasionally talked about just taking some people he disliked with him. I don’t think he was ever going to be the man that would act on that, but I know how angry he was at the world underneath and unlike his analysis of the world I know who the real fucking blame for that is.

          This was written mostly train of thought.

      • i imagine once someone is at the level of having personal assistants and articles of incorporation, lots of accounts function independently of their official owner’s capacity. that’s without even getting into weird shady shit that i’m epstein was surely connected to with who knows who still having access.

        like what better way to send something somewhere without a papertrail but to have a dead guy’s account doing it lol.

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        3 days ago

        He had enough friends/servants/sycophants.

        I know someone who is still using a friend’s former accounts, despite that friend going radiosilent and vanishing into a foreign country years ago.