• Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    “We’re not blaming God for this,” said 35-year-old Kristina. “Yes, it hurts, of course, it hurts. But God has chosen Ethan for a reason. God is doing something, and we’re gonna glorify his name regardless.

    “And we wouldn’t change it any other way,” the mom continued. “If I knew this could be the outcome, I still wouldn’t have given my son the vaccine.”

    This child deserves parents who love him, and he does not have even that.

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      “Yes, it hurts, of course, it hurts. But God has chosen Ethan for a reason. God is doing something, and we’re gonna glorify his name regardless."

      Absolute cultist behavior

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          You know I’ve been finding Darktide really cathartic lately. Just something about mowing down Nurgle worshipers by the thousands over and over really soothes the soul.

          I wonder what it could be. It’s even more viscerally satisfying than wiping out Nazis and Klansmen in Wolfenstein: TNC was. I just can’t put my finger on the why… blob-no-thoughts

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        It’s so weird to because if you really embrace this logic, shouldn’t you be an AnPrim?

        “Why do you drive a car when god gave you feet to walk on? Why do you eat farm grown food when God gave you the bounty of the forests to hunt and gather from?”

        Like really unless you abstain from all man made technology there’s not reason to make an odd exception for medicine alone.

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        Isn’t it literal heresy too? Like the moral of the story of job is that policing internal faith through inflicting horror to test loyalty is bad and the work of the Adversary (“Satan”), or at least we should assume that’s the intended reading considering how both Judaism and Catholicism centered following their laws and engaging in ritual. It’s not until the Protestant heresy that this gets inverted and following the laws becomes whatever, performing ritual is just whatever you feel like, but what’s really important is rigidly policing internal faith and testing blind, absolute loyalty to whatever the local religious leader says.

        I mean obviously magic isn’t real, these are stories written to serve social (binding communities together), political (smearing the authors’ contemporary enemies by calling them gay or saying they’re weird incest babies - the whole Lot thing is about smearing the tribe of Moab who claimed descent from someone named that), or cultural functions (establishing foundational myths and creating a unique cultural identity), but even in the context of their own theological framework these Evangelical death cultists are literally Satanic heretics who follow the Adversary from the famed scriptural parable “don’t be like the Adversary because that’s bad”.

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          There no deep philosophical framework in the American Civic Religion, which these people actually follow. They read the story of Job and think, “Wasn’t Job good, he believed despite all those things that happened to him,” and that’s it. There’s nothing more to it.

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            They read the story of Job and think, “Wasn’t Job good, he believed despite all those things that happened to him,” and that’s it. There’s nothing more to it.

            Literally how I was taught to read the story.

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              Haha, yeah. I wasn’t even being “online pessimistic” about that. I mean it as a literal matter-of-fact. I grew up Catholic and that’s how we were taught the story with maybe only slightly more insight but not really.

              Which is sad, because a lot of bible stories are pretty boring but Job is one that is kind of immensely interesting from the implications of it. God is perpetuating the evil upon Job, not Lucifer. If anything, Lucifer seems to have control of the situation.

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          I went on a terrible ride about the kingdom of Moab, not that much mind you, then felt into Natopedia, which had a map of the area at the time with the kingdom in there.

          But then I saw that it was marked for deletion as of this month! I’ve looked around, the source is from the Jewishvirtuallibrary, who is then picking it up from “fsmitha.com”.

          I’ve tried to look around for a description of that guy or the website around but all really comes back down to being cited a lot by Redditors in big sub.

          I’ve gived up on that point. But thanks for making me read about that somehow!

      • goferking0 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        insert story of person staying on rooftop during flood, ignoring all rescue attempts then asking God why they didn’t save them only to be told “why didn’t you use any of the rescue methods I sent you”

    • there’s this wack suspense thriller from the early 2000s about an ultrachristian dad (Bill Paxton, RIP) who has “visions” of demons walking around the world, hiding as humans. the mom is gone and he has two very young sons, who he recruits into helping him banish/kill these people as “God’s Wrath”. the movie is mostly about how the older son (10?) is terrified of his dad axe murdering random people and trying to resist him, without his dad growing suspicious that his son is falling under a demonic influence.

      its a super dark concept “Frailty” (2001), but people like those in this story, who attribute their destructive and life-negating, narcissistic impulses to “God’s Will” remind me how this kind of fucked thinking is coddled, protected and even encouraged.

        • i just learned that, in looking up a few details to refresh my memory today. such a crazy movie. i remember it being truly horrific and upsetting in my early 20s, but i was reminded most of the violence is off camera/implied while you’re watching the reactions of the children. so its not gross, or as bill would say, “not exploitative” which drove his interest in directing. like he was worried some other director would fuck it up by making a graphically violent modern slasher.

          its interesting to see how controversial it is too, for effectively using horror movie techniques from 1950s hollywood, mostly taking place in the 1970s. admittedly, the plot concept is pretty ballsy even today.

          like some people hate it and, perhaps more frighteningly, some see it as confirmation of their religious extremism. yikes!

          to me its just horror done extremely well, because i am still horrified by it’s story decades later. kudos to paxton. what a fucking movie.

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    This isn’t even about culture wars or legit concerns anymore. As far as I’m concerned this is literal child neglect, and you’re a monster if you are willing to sacrifice your own child to protect your own ego.

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    “With my own eyes, I have seen the damage it does to kids who are perfectly normal, and then once they get it, they’re not the same anymore,” she claimed.

    anakin-padme-2 she’s talking about measles right