How convenient “trump bad” libs become “well actually america is only sometimes bad” when trump does bad things against non-western nations.
Same thing liberal zionists being “netanyahu bad” but still goes “well aktually even though i “hate” netanyahu technically its not a genoicide”
The single cargo plane Hasan flew in on was carrying something like 500k worth of solar panels. Everyone who went brought more food, medicine, electronics, or whatever than they are using while staying there.
“said America deserved 9/11”
Meanwhile they support unlimited 9/11s onto global south countries, especially adversaries in the Middle East
They’ve literally done a thousand 9/11s in Iran since the beginning of this month! Not to mention Gaza!
America is bad tho
The worst in fact
Liberalism is when you think the resting state of a globe straddling empire is neutrality, trundling into good or bad situationally, I guess
Stuff like this really showcases how libs enjoy simplistic explanations for all the intellectual posturing they do. You mention something that makes a simple answer a little longer and they immediately tune it out as you making up excuses because they prefer sound bites over explanations.
It’s partially why they love referencing pop culture and I’ve found that it actually does work because they have no historical frame of reference so you really do need to make references to movies, games, or shows.
Yeah, I have a whole philosophy of what counts as good. It just so happens that America is diametrically opposed to it.
Look, sometimes America is bad
The problem is that libs will never say that America is bad to the point of being worse than countries outside of the imperial core. America can be bad, but China/Cuba/Russia/North Korea/Vietnam/etc must always be worse.
even if your ideology is only opposing the usa no matter what it does you’ll be correct like 80-90% of the time, so I dont see why that wouldnt be your reflexive first stance
Look, sometimes America is bad.
actually it’s always
But that’s quite literally the only lens they’re capable of seeing the world through.
because it’s true.
It’s why the DSA cozied up to Maduro.
good
It’s why Hasan thinks the Houthi terrorists are so cool and said America deserved 9/11.
yes, and it did
If something is against America, it’s good. End of story. They don’t have an ideology beyond that.
yes, of course
Yes America Bad. If Libs turned off their “brains” and just stuck to that one simple axiom we would have global communism in a decade.
The monkey’s paw curls. All liberals now believe America is bad because Trump made it bad. Denazification part II occurs, titled de-MAGA-fication, including a sham trial that manages to execute almost no one, top administration officials and scientists being reshuffled around the newly emerging international order, and the world largely failing to learn the lessons that ought to be learned from genocide and fascism.
Did they destroy AmeriKKKa though? That’s the relevant part. If they do that, then the rest will fall into place. Even if they do it for a dumb reason like a Muellerian Jihad
Even as a straw-man of a political ideology “America bad” puts you on the right side of things more often than any pro-america liberal horseshit would. “yeah america is sometimes bad (only sometimes!), but don’t do reflect too much on that because we’re still better than our designated enemies.”
It’s actually extremely important to correctly identify the fundamental character of the global hegemon, whichever nation that is at any given point in time. The most powerful nation on earth always plays a major role in shaping the conditions that every other nation must respond to, so yeah a lot of things will come back to something the US did if you actually follow the leads far enough.
In the future, maybe we’ll have dipshits going “why do you make everything about China?”
Ugh if only Bin Laden had written a letter explaining his intentions behind 9/11 this whole thing could have been avoided.
All he had to say was "Bush asked me to do it"
Bush was about to admit it but then Bin Laden the LOSER prince takes the credit and says gg ez as usual.
Its why he just paint things nowadays its so sad to see your supposed life work be stolen away.
Osama was a liberal because he thought that Americans can just vote against genocide
I hate the ‘You just think America is bad, so you can’t possible see how [insert America’s enemies here] could be bad, too!’ response you can get from pretty much everyone. It’s not a belief they had previously scrutinized but one they usually come up with in the moment, literal confabulation because you’ve raised too many points about the true evils of imperialism.
And I’m talking really hate it, bros. You will receive this response if you’re being a glib asshole making hot memes, or if you’ve delivered a painful dissertation on your extremely niche area of special interest in which they’ve never even read a wiki article on. It is, from the school of thought that defaults to Harry Potter and Star Wars to understand the world, a tacit attempt to pass their refusal to engage as an enlightened wisdom, as them truly understanding the greys of the world and yourself, simply a stooge for having read more than a CNN article about the topic.
It’s probably my biggest challenge in educating potential comrades because it’s a cognitive hurdle for me. I’m already fighting against my brain shutting down from rage when they bring up this halfhearted debate pervert logic, how am I meant to engineer the conversation back to somewhere productive? Nine times out of ten I can’t.
Usually whatever enemy america has that can be called bad is bad as direct result of amerixan action in the region
And sometimes they’re simply inspired by America’s actions, like Nazi Germany
It’s probably my biggest challenge in educating potential comrades because it’s a cognitive hurdle for me. I’m already fighting against my brain shutting down from rage when they bring up this halfhearted debate pervert logic, how am I meant to engineer the conversation back to somewhere productive? Nine times out of ten I can’t.
This makes it sooooo hard to organize the left in America.
I go with some variation of “both sides having done ‘bad things’ doesn’t stop you from choosing the correct side when you’re watching a movie and it shouldn’t stop you from choosing the correct side in real life.”
What zero knowledge of imperialism does to a motherfucker
Bonus point for “ah you hate America but you’ll use our electricity.”
You hate America but I notice you don’t live feral in the woods to be hunted by the police. Hypocrite much?
Same bullshit as “Oh you don’t like capitalism, move to China or North Korea!”
It costs something like $50,000 to renounce your citizenship and if you don’t continue paying taxes interpol will kidnap you.
“America bad” makes you right about 90% of the time, which is significantly better than average liberal achieves.
More like 99% of the time post WW2
When has the USA been a positive otherwise? I honestly can’t think of anything. And in WW2, they ended it by dropping 2 nukes to intimidate the Soviet Union and also stole all the credit from the Soviet Union.
Pressured UK/Israel to back off during the Suez Crisis. Sanctioning Apartheid South Africa. Sometimes made legitimate moves towards detente and nuclear deproliferation. Uhhh… exported all their means of production to China chasing short term profits?
My understanding is CFC regulations to protect the ozone started in the US. It was the University of California that first started studying the longevity of chlorofluorocarbons in the upper atmosphere, and the U.S. National Academy of Sciences that first published the ozone depletion hypothesis. Six years later, the US was among the first countries to start to limit the use of CFCs.
Literally the only thing I can think of, and the CFC replacements are actually forever chemicals so it’s kind of a mixed bag…
I was more thinking with foreign policy.
Just give her credit for finding an example at all.
Touche
The Americans with Disabilities Act is pretty comprehensive compared to most ofthef countries.
