“Again, the evil practices of the last and worst form of democracy are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands…”
“Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him”
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“Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him”
You mean like how you were invited to Macedonia by Phillip to tutor his son Alexander and how you lived in Athens for 20 years despite never being a citizen?
Reactionaries throughout time projecting and engaging in rank hypocrisy, name a better duo
Thank you Michael Parenti for revealing the villainy of the Roman Pauci to us all.
I’m sure at the time someone threw back in his face the incredibly clear parallel he presents but doesn’t notice between the treatment of women and slaves with his own formulation of how a tyrant hates and fears his subjects. And then he got real mad.
: ‘Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.’I haven’t read lots of aristotle, but i think a third of his political stuff can be read as “nice to have slaves and pontificate, truly best system🤔 would suck if someone could make a slave out of me tho 🤔” one might notice similar traits in substack any professional commentariat in liberalism, be it new york crimes or whatever think tank.
Yes, but also dialectically lol. I read him as someone aware of the movements and forces in the world, just standing for a moral stance in opposition to progress despite that understanding
Lmao he’s dead though
Okay I know it’s not the point. But I kept reading tyranny as…well the T slur and was really fucking confused.
Yay dyslexia.
That’s why I’m more a socrates (plato) fan. He says women can lead because they have the same qualities as men.
TBH, he may have said that just to annoy people around him.
That’s something I’ve seen recently (and I find incredibly funny). But taking it at face value, he is saying that women have all the same qualities as men. He also has a dialogue with a slave that shows they are capable of figuring complex math. Very woke of him.
Pedophiles never change
Aristotles recommended age of consent of 18 (or at least for women to not marry ere 18).
18 and 37
Ok, not the worst thing going on in antiquity
Antways, would my seed continue growing if I divorce now?
How do women have a good time under tyranny? This doesn’t apply anymore because women were given rights that are being stripped again under tyranny. The only maga women ‘voting against’ their husbands are those that are brainwashed by the fundie propaganda.
If you take a hard look at the experience of women in a marriage in modern times where they don’t need a husband anymore to have credit, buy property, etc - it is truly awful and not something anyone would choose with eyes open unless their society had thoroughly socialized them to center men completely.
I don’t expect Aristotle to have meditated much on the experience of women and slaves
Tyranny in Aristotle’s times was often about giving rights to underclasses to secure their support against slaveowning class. Aristotle was himself a member of the slaveowning class, so he was not a fan.
Tyranny in Aristotle’s times was often about giving rights to underclasses to secure their support against slaveowning class.
Wow, just like
Can someone translate this for me? I am very bad at reading old timey English (embarrassing, I know)
First highlighted section is basically: “Women and slaves having rights guaranteed by the state sucks shit for dudes and that’s why democracy is bad.”
Second: “Leaders of such states are more wary of their citizens than foreigners because the foreigners aren’t going to kill them.” (the citizens and Aristotle sound like mega-chuds of the day to me)
Thanks! That’s sort of what I thought it was saying but I wasn’t sure because the way it’s written made my brain go glooby
Reads to me like a version of the conservative complaint that liberal politicians cynically use welfare and rights in order to buy the support of the underclass. The sympathetic underclass is then willing to betray the Good Men who are the enemies of the rulers. All this in a formal democracy, but in substance tyranny.
Okay I was wondering who “Aristoteles” was then I realized that’s a typo on the possessive of “Aristotle”
Aristoteles a transliteration of his name in Greek. Aristotle is the Anglicized version of his name.
Aristoteles is how i always pronouned his name in my head for some reason and now I have a historically correct reason to do so.
TIL
Aristoteleez nuts
BLAMMO
BEHOLD!
THE PROTO-CHUD!
(That also might be Plato.)
