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    He then said that the episode underscored why the White House needed beefed up security, and its own ballroom.

    And there it is

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    There’s probably no conspiracy theory in play, but I do think it’s funny that the first WHCD he attends as president because he hates the event and doesn’t understand it ends as soon as it starts because of a gunman. Creating a gunman distraction to avoid getting roasted by the press is not beyond Trump but also who out there doesn’t want to see him dead at this point? It’s just that I’m not sure which answer Occam’s Razor falls at this point because false flag and honest attempt seem about equal likelihood!

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      So apparently one of the awards they were going to hand out tonight was for investigative journalism relating to the Epstein files…

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      I do like the idea of doing drastic, insane stuff to get out of awkward social situations. Best I’ve heard so far is Clarence Thomas trying to repeal Loving v. Virginia so he wouldn’t have to file for divorce.

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      They’re not the only ones to pull shit, they’re just bad at it…

      Like, they picked something he hates and never goes to, and made a big thing about him going. It makes sense now that it was never going to happen and they were just drawing as many eyes as possible.

      I saw Sports Center for the first time in like a decade last weekend, they were covering Wrestlemania as if it was an actual competition. Even when one of the “top 10” was someone openly cheating, and then they did an interview about how much work it took.

      Like, the weirdest part was it felt like modern “political analysis” where everyone just pretends it’s not rigged and the current “champ” is a blatant cheat.

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        This is why they were reporting about that “leak” that trump was going to say something stupid, to get people to watch. It’s like some corny soap opera writing

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          Right…

          And on the wrestling broadcast it makes sense.

          A third party doing it on any day besides April 1st is different

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        Because it’s all fake. They are faking culture and forcing it down our throats. All these YouTubers coming out of nowhere acting fucking stupid like clavicular? That’s Peter Thiels doing. Fake fake fake.

        Instead of following culture and reporting on it as it happens organically they are faking culture and forcing us to fall in line. That’s why everything feels fucking wrong now.

        And, the worst part, they are using the third world to do it for pennies. Destroy democracy for literally a hundred bucks a month just repost this shitty YouTube/kick/twist propaganda. We are so fucked.

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        for a while i used to think wrestlemania is just drama for dudes too macho to admit they like musical theatre. it’s delightful and their fanbase is wonderfully welcoming. there’s a really good reason a lot of the other special needs kids watched professional wrestling, and it’s because the other fans accept them for who they are.

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          Egrets. it’s to let us know it’s for birds, and birds are fake, and since birds are fake they include some of the fake sports for their bird fans

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      I can’t decide which is funnier, Kash Patel being cucked in a real active shooter situation or Kash Patel being cucked in a staged active shooter situation.

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        because right wingers believes in their version of conspiracy, when a conspiracy actually happens with valid evidence they call it fake.

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        Because you are, if you think that was a set up.

        Don’t know whats wrong with you, the fatlanders, that everything for you is a conspiracy. Have you thought that maybe there is something wrong with your brains?

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          Have you thought about maybe trying to construct an argument instead of insulting people? I know It’s easier than proving your point, but come on we can do better than this.

          I don’t even really agree that it was a set up. I just think you’re coming off as insulting and pretentious for no reason.

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    If you go to Reddit r/conservative it’s selling. It’s always the same the attacker donated like 20 dollars os something to Democrats one time.

    My fear they could use this to take out freedoms, spy on peoples social media, or even worse say it’s a mental health problem be critical of them and start to get so called “dangerous” people by their speech.

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      Yeah but conservatives don’t believe in mental health, remember? That’s why American healthcare practically considers it an indulgence.

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        They definitely believe in mental health like trump derangement syndrome. That’s enough to put people in cages.

        The pseudo-science of psychiatry doesn’t do much to help. That’s a root of the problem.

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      They will always miss unless it is a real assassination backed by super powerful people. It really is not that hard to understand

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        I don’t understand why really powerful people don’t want him dead.

        He’s started a war that has caused massive supply chain issues, he’s introduced insane tariffs that have ramped up prices for component parts and called supply chain issues, he’s introduced hostile domestic policies that have reduced international tourism in the United States, he’s threatened companies that try claim their tariff money back except CEOs will have to claim the money back or they’ll get sued by their shareholders thus putting the CEOs in an impossible position, ICE keep raiding factories and warehouses arresting foreign nationals even though they’re the only people who will work in those facilities causing workforce shortages, ditto for farms, and he’s causing international incidents which are resulting in less global trade and a lack of demand for American produced goods.

        Everyone’s losing money because of this including the rich and powerful so they may decide that they want to replace him with someone who’s capable of thinking through the consequences of their actions. Or at least someone who is more easily controlled.

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    If the attacks are all fake, its incredibly poor false flag, because nobody feels bad for the prick except his absolutely ardent fans.

    If they’re real, it should prove to everyone how absolutely hated he is, because no other US president in recent memory has had two assassination attempts that were publicly reported.

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    So for those of you like me who hadn’t heard the news before seeing this, apparently some guy rushed through the metal detector area at the White House correspondents dinner, but was stopped by a volley of shots from security staff.

    A bit like rushing Area 51 but if someone tried to solo the mission.

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    This second assassination theatre production is why we need to release the trump/epstein Files! He was reading a prepared statement very soon thereafter. It had to have been pre-written.

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    I’m starting to think he’s not as committed to the roll as Charlei Kirk was

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        He was known before he was assassinated? I’d never heard of him until he was assassinated.

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          Definitely known. If you do any of the Instagram Reels/TikTok style of scrolling videos, you’d come across him fairly often. I have always been a raging lefty in almost every category but I still saw his debates quite often. They were kind of pushed by the algorithm as ragebait because the things he said were so ludicrous and his arguments were very weak but he was so confident about them.

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            ah, the only social media I’ve used in a number of years is the fediverse. from what little i know of him, I SERIOUSLY doubt he’d have been on the fediverse.

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    I am not sure if was staged or not. But after his post as Christ and attacking the pope, his numbers with Christians were really low.

    It’s a coincidence this person made a big post attacking Christians just before. For sure will help his numbers with this group

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    “Americans why are you not trying to shoot this guy” someone tries to shoot this guy “FAKE!”

    (/s – I do understand where this sentiment is coming from, but it’s just a bit too early to tell what it really was)

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      Well, the one where his ear got scratched, the FBI refuses to investigate it. That definitely makes me curious. They also seemed to have set positions for photographers to get his picture as he raises his fist with the flag in the background. There’s certainly some strange things going on with that.

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        They also seemed to have set positions for photographers to get his picture as he raises his fist with the flag in the background.

        I haven’t watched videos of that attempt, but has Trump moved from his position after the shot? If not, I don’t see it as implausible that they positioned a photographer in advance to get the flag in the background. That one is explainable, we are talking about the country that has its flag fucking everywhere, even on underwear.

        I find the fact that they took the foto at all after the “attempt” as one of the biggest proofs that trump was not really scared about the situation.

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          There’s a guy who, calmly but quickly, gathers up photographers and puts them in one position, then moves then to the second position (which is the one with that flag). It’s very weird behavior for a shooting literally just having happened.

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    Dunno, the media is loudly spinning him into a hero. And average low-info Americans tend to believe what they’re told.

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    I’m not a person who believes in many conspiracies but, the first WHCD he attended since 2016 and there was virtually no security at the hotel?

    If you ever been in a city with a military base when the president or VP land, you know that doesn’t make sense. You don’t even need to be that close and they are on you.

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      there was virtually no security at the hotel?

      Were we looking at the same event?

      The hallways were full of uniformed Secret Service agents and there were several plain clothes/undercover agents in many of the initial images.

      There were also many uniformed local police (one took a round in their bodyarmor).

      There were magnetometers for screening guests.

      There was a fully kitted counter assault squad standing by close enough to be on stage in about 10 seconds.

      The airspace was restricted and there were agents on the roof with counter drone weapons.

      There were multiple layers of security.

      All he managed to do was to sprint through an initial screening point and right into a hallway full of federal agents and local police where he was subdued.

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        Apparently you could get into the hotel with just a paper ticket. That’s what I was talking about.

        (I don’t actually believe it was staged)

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          Yeah, while it was closed to the general public for security reasons. Existing guests were given a pass to get through the perimeter security.

          The event space was the primary security area and he was tackled before getting passed the entrance security.

          Since this was a place where the President’s was prescence was planned, the security would be especially heavy. (If bad guys know where you’re going to be they can plan more larger, more complex attacks.)

          The security would have been set up, covertly, to repel the equivalent of a ground assault. They’d have an ground quick reaction force nearby, the air space was restricted so there were likely drones or worse overhead.

          Trump is incompetent, but the Secret Service isn’t (insert jokes about the sniper here) and they have basically infinite money as far as bodyguards go.

          This guy didn’t get remotely close, at best the agents saved his life by tackling him before he got far enough for them to use lethal force.

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            He was able to get close enough that Wolf Blitzer was standing close by to where it happened. That’s awfully close.

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              A member of the press was in the hallway at a dinner for members of the press. That doesn’t give any information about how close he was other than telling us he was in the right building.

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                That’s true but if he was in the building, he also could have detonated a bomb and that’s pretty close for that.

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                  Yeah, he could have and it would have killed a lot of federal agents but they’re there to, at the last extreme, die to protect the President.

                  He would have had to get through the hallway gauntlet of armed agents, through a fortified entryway checkpoint, through a heavily armed counter assault team and passed the wall of bodyguards to even see the President.

                  He ran the first checkpoint and was captured. It’s like saying someone almost captured a military base because they drove through the gate. There are many, many more lethal layers between him and his objective.

                  The scarier scenario was one where he would have carried a suicide vest to disrupt or kill the outer security so that another armed team could get through. That’s why you see the counter assault team appear on stage immediately. They’re there to handle the follow-on armed assault so the personal protection detail has time to get away.

                  From a security perspective, he didn’t even get close. The idea that someone would sprint passed the screening area is already accounted for. It isn’t exactly a new or revolutionary tactic.

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    It’s more likely the gunman was there to shoot at the press that TFG has vilified for the last ten years than an AA on his corpulent personage and his minions.