cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46324512
Am I crazy not to trust Chinese developed games ?
There is no question over the last 10 years the quality and production level of Chinese developed games has seem to sky rocket. Many of these games even being free to play. But honestly I haven’t played a single one. For the same reasons I refused to download TikTok.
China is a well known surveillance state. I worry downloading and playing these games especially on a PC or mobile phone would just be a huge privacy risk.
Am I being to paranoid ? Are there some regulations I’m not aware of that might protect me anyway ?
I feel like I’m missing out on some really high quality visually striking games because of it
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I have a friend that is very concerned about what North Korea / China could do with their data and I think they’ve just never considered that it’s mostly propaganda when I replied I was much more concerned with what the government I live under is doing with it.
The funniest part is that these people genuinely think they’re important enough for the CPC to care about them. Like, chill bro, you’re a nobody who works a dead-end job, worries about the rising cost of living, and are 1 medical emergency away from Bankruptcy.
If the CPC was to spy on you, they’d feel pity
My state sells our private data every year. AES states getting my data would make me feel safer tbh.
Every month I consider copying my entire SSD and just sending it via DHL to the Kim Chaek University of Technology
It’s only right that the DPRK gets to partake of my 20 year old high school essays that I still have for some reason
The DPRK are welcome to the four separate drafts of my dissertation still saved to my desktop coming on three years since I graduated uni.
I don’t think they would find any use for a 40 TB media with alt-style girls in it if I send mine.
Like do they have a red dawn fantasies that the North Koreans and Chinese will parachute and detain them in a camp for their memes?
I do.
Yes they do. My former cop uncle unironically said china could/would invade America from shipping containers. I laughed at him, don’t think I’ll ever see him again after that.
While I’m sure he’s awful, it shows how thin skinned these people are. Because that’s an insane assertion and I can’t imagine how someone would take it so personally.
It’s the scariest thing about this sort of propaganda to me. It’s like a switch gets flipped and they go from the person you know into a paranoid monster who would violently attack you or cut you off forever for just doubting an idea that isn’t even relevant to them at all.
They’re driven by fear, it’s why they put effort into the strong man routine
Ultimately it’s just projection, I think. These people glorify American wars of aggression, they can’t conceive of a nation that doesn’t see its future written in blood and conquest
North Korea could use your data impersonate you to apply for remote tech jobs and install secret backdoors in whatever platform that their intelligence agency could exploit. Your friend is kind of a jerk for not wanting that tbh.
Honestly, this is probably not the best instance to ask this question on. It is well known for downplaying or outright denying anything negative the Chinese government does. If I were you I would ask elsewhere if you want more nuanced answers.
Apparently to a liberal “nuanced” means “answers that I don’t find personally upsetting”
What they meant was “the people on this instance don’t parrot the imperialist propaganda that I’ve been gobbling up for years, and that creates a cognitive dissonance and hurt my narcissistic brain.”
Why would you even care about a Chinese social credit score if you aren’t going to China anyway? How is that going to effect your life? Are they going to make your temu deliveries late?
Apart from the inherent racism, they just bark to the wrong tree since they also cannot comprehend their state are the “bad guys”.
With the US it’s scary because they control large parts of my digital life and banking. And they have shown not to be above weaponising this control.
no no, it’s far safer to let western companies have your data, because then the IDF can get it and do another round of exploding appliance terrorism. imagine what china is preparing to do!
Is this the freedom that liberals have been defending tooth and nail?
this is what europeans believe, except the labels on top are “non whites”, “europeans”, “americans”:
so yes. this is that freedom.
I will sound racist but I believe the “whites” are the real uncultured swines of humanity. They developed over other people’s blood and soil after they managed to unite their Balkanized fiefdoms instead of constantly killing each other.
Whiteness is also an imaginary concept and a figment of the racist imagination, of course, but that doesn’t make it any less real, or deadly; whiteness is a thing because people insist that it is, and use force and violence to make it so. Whiteness is a thing because white supremacists needed a name for their violent subjugation of others, and so they gave it one. In this way, whiteness is a uniquely virulent and pathological form of social identity. It cannot survive its loss of supremacy; it cannot abide competition or mixture or “impurity.” Created by racial slavery and given a second wind by European imperialism, whiteness depends on the violent subordination of all others. Celebrate your Irish heritage if you must, or your Pennsylvania Dutch grandparents; that has nothing to do with the whiteness that names me, now, but which (partially) excluded my Irish and German ancestors when they came to this nation. Irish and Pennsylvania Dutch can and will survive incorporation into a multi-ethnic nation, but it is the sine qua non of whiteness that it cannot and will not. Inextricable from racial subordination, whiteness has no other content at all: whiteness is what’s left in the melting pot after everything else has been burned away. Without that xenophobic fire, it has no meaning, no substance, no fundamental.
This is why “white genocide” actually does have a meaning beyond “racial integration.” If you take away a white person’s ability to live as the undisputed master of the universe—to take his own experience as normal and privileged, and to presume all others to be debased copies of his own primary existence—then you take away his whiteness.
from Buffalo Skulls
You cannot be racist against whites because “white” is not a race. It is no more than a color used as a weapon.
Conversations that don’t happen:
“Where is your family from?”
“Oh, I’m white!”
not like they ever really stopped killing each other, but they did figure out a social and economic order that optimizes for the most vicious monsters and crucially, can keep the looting, pillaging andremoved going no matter what happens to the state back home. it can have an oopsie civil war and the colonization continues. it can even try to rein the monsters in, and the colonization continues. and any serious intervention in this awful franchise system is considered unthinkable, authoritarian, oriental.
One thing I like about this image is that the age suggests that we should now be “beyond it”.
Wdym you won’t allow ITF to get your data‽‽ What are you, an antisemite‽‽ /s
remembering that story about how users who validated via au10tix were seeing their full names get googled from Isn’treal
Even if you thought that the Chinese government was going to the trouble of spying on you, what would they be doing with that data? You don’t live in China! Every single thing you touch in the United States is a privacy nightmare because of the US Government and tech corporations, and they’re in direct control of your every waking minute. What’s China going to do to you?
Oh man imagine a future where your toaster detects liberalism and reports to the cpc and they individually sanction you so none of your chinese made crap ever gets delivered
I make sure to always say “I love Xi Jinping’s wonderful leadership” and “Long live the Communist Party of China” into my Chinese made mic every time I order something on Temu, just in case.
Me whispering into my toaster, “Xi, if there’s anything you need, I’m here for you.”
My US insurance is requiring app engagement and a special wi-fi scale to cover one of my scrips. Whatever the fuck China is doing, it can’t be as stupid as this
I opted out of my car’s manufacturer selling data to car insurance companies and other third parties, and I’m just imagining my rates are going to go up any minute now.
Is China in the room with us right now?
Is China in the room with us right now?
The US government sure is, and through expert hacking and intelligence infiltration so are the Chinese. So maybe?
Despite sanctions and public exposure, Salt Typhoon continues operating. Recorded Future documented new breaches of five additional telecom firms between December 2024 and January 2025. By August 2025, the FBI confirmed Salt Typhoon had hacked at least 200 companies across 80 countries.
And just to cement this, here’s Congress saying the same thing
“They exploited the wiretapping system that our law enforcement agencies rely on under the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act — known as CALEA. These systems became an open door for Chinese intelligence. Salt Typhoon allowed the Chinese operation to track millions of Americans’ locations in real time, record phone calls at will and read our text messages.”
“So how did this happen?” she continued. “Senior national security officials said the breach occurred in large part because telecommunications companies failed to implement rudimentary – rudimentary! — cybersecurity measures. Investigators found legacy equipment not updated in years, router vulnerabilities with patches available for seven years — seven years! — that were never applied, and hackers acquiring credentials through weak passwords.”
The trusted transport layer is dead. Salt Typhoon, a Chinese MSS operation active since 2019, compromised nine major U.S. telecom carriers by exploiting fundamental identity failures. One administrator credential controlled 100,000 routers. Patches available since 2018 remained unapplied for years.
The attackers accessed CALEA lawful intercept systems. They surveilled over one million Americans in real time. They intercepted calls and texts of approximately 100 senior government officials.
This is an Identity Failure Layer collapse. The breach required no sophisticated zero-days. It required one over-privileged account, absent MFA, and years of ignored patches. CISOs are misdiagnosing this as telecom-specific. It is not. Every enterprise routes sensitive traffic through compromised networks. The transport layer your organization trusts is hostile terrain. Assume unencrypted communications are intercepted. Assume metadata is logged.
The mandated backdoor built for law enforcement became the adversary’s front door.
I always get “you think they don’t try and influence people?” like they’re going to somehow forcefeed Trump ads to your phone or something. Hexbear shows up in your Tiktok feed. Putting aside that Xi doesn’t really like Trump because he’s unpredictable.
They give up when I say just use an adblocker lol.
someone should make an identical post replacing it with “american developed games”
I might do it sometime. But idk if I’ve got the energy to argue with liberals.
if you live in the west then your data is already available to the evil see see pee anyway because it’s up for sale on the international market
Somehow privacylibs never think about that because they have been taught their country is the highest stage of humanity.
If I was a CPC officer, I would sign up their asses to every available leftist organizations using their data for shits and giggles.
I get tagged by probably a dozen flock cameras every day going to/from work
YOUR DATA IS FOR SALE ON THE OPEN MARKET, AND THESE COMPANIES ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING IT ALL EXPOSED IN SECURITY BREACHES ANYWAY. YOU ALREADY LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE CHINA - OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT - EASILY AND NEAR INSTANTLY HAS ACCESS TO DATA ABOUT YOU AND THERE IS NO ALTERATION OF YOUR PERSONAL LIFESTYLE THAT CAN CHANGE THIS.
This is the same person that would make fun of you for being worried about US products harvesting data
Then scream at you for not supporting the blue maga.
they can literally just get your data buy buying it from Meta/Google, also what are they going to do? send an assasin because you said you didnt like the wukong game? making a single person embargo because you thumps down a comment on tiktok?
Apparently CCP will spam verses from “Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong” e-mail and SMS to you if you play Black Myth: Wukong.
It could be worse, friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend booted that game up and was stolen in the night and taken to the CCP cockmilking factory.
CCP cockmilking factory.
Lol wut?
Jordan Peterson once reposted some fetish content on his twitter because he thought it was footage of the mistreatment of Uyghur Muslims.
Edit: This was in the throes of liberal media reporting on the Falon Gong organ harvesting conspiracy theories and he believed what he was looking at was footage of that.
Even if that was true, why would you share it on your public account without a proper warning? Are liberals that desperate to pwn left-wing?
Yes
Then shame on them.
I have a close friend with severe OCD who spends a lot of their time worrying about very vague hypothetical scenarios that they can’t really logically elaborate on, and it just clicked that that’s what liberal discourse on China feels like. No, this person who has been out of your life for 10 years is not going to suddenly come back and spread a rumor that you’re a pedophile. No, the Communist Party of China is not going to reach through your video games and Do Something to you.
Western software comes with just as much spyware because selling your data is the entire business model. If your threat model is Chinese state actors accessing your data (IDK why they would, maybe it boosts your ego to think they care about you) and your response is to simply use western corporate spyware instead (and id be shocked if there was any level of identity concealment in the way they use corporate spyware) you have accomplished nothing as the Chinese state actors just buy your data from western data brokers. Liberals have consumed the china=bad propaganda so thoroughly that they behave utterly irrationally and incoherently.
The people who really worry about their privacy have already moved to GrapheneOS and Linux, they avoid Google and any proprietary software like the plague
Just saying… also haven’t they heard of “surveillance capitalism”?
When I said that I avoid interacting with games communities outside of hexbear or .ml is because of libs like this one.
You’d think video gaming would be one of the most class conscious hobbies, since the industry is probably more openly and blatantly predatory than any other, and how badly game developers are treated by their parent companies. But it’s the exact opposite.
