losing is a part of my artistic process
okay
Natalie Lose
Damn, drag her
I feel seen
Shit, forgot my shades 😎
:classic:
Stealing that excuse tbh
The whole interview she refuses to call it a genocide and very awkwardly avoids making any comment from herself about it whenever Briahna mentions it. Of course leftists have difficulty talking to Natalie as an equal (in her words “human being”) because she is not an equal on politics. She does not understand power dynamics at all and self admittedly primarily focuses on the “vibes” of politicians.
This reads like trump tweets lol. “Brianna joy gray, JILL STEIN VOTER, comes to me, she says ‘mr trump will you please be on my podcast’?”
And so on. You get it. The whole aside about women not getting enough recognition and she’s really nice and so on and then straight to the dig at her? Pure Trump
Literally reads like one of his recent tweets relating to the Iran war. ‘LOSER who totally did not own me (is actually owning owning me btw) because I have owned myself. I trust that Iran will be DECENT and not own me further because I’ve already owned myself and have thus won the war’
She says she’s acting in (deep inhale) bad faith. She says it folks! Some people, they say I act in bad faith, but I would never admit - I don’t act in bad faith - would you admit you did? But I still go on there, because I’m good! I’m good! People say it all the time! And I do it because she’s a woman, a beautiful woman - you’re not allowed to say that anymore by the way, but she is - and women, they dont get enough credit! I could have a (deep inhale) podcast and I would be great at it! Wouldn’t I? But she’s good too! And she doesn’t get enough credit! Not because shes pretty - for her age - but because she’s a woman! So I go! I go to bad faith! And what do they do? They ask me questions! So many questions
Wahhhh how dare someone post clips of the episode I went on ?
Like wtf do you expect? Someone not to post any clips ? If you go on a show and lose the debate then the clips are going to be you losing the debate.
Twitter leftists: “Briahna is owning ContraPoints”
ContraPoints: “I lost the debate”
Reality: Briahna was just asking basic questions and logical follow-ups that every lib has already seen on their social media feeds thousands of times in dozens of various forms and should have a prepared lie to counter it, but still doesn’t for some reason!? You can just call it “Russian disinformation” on social media and ignore it, but you can’t do it in an interview that you agreed to!!
This just shows that no one wants to work anymore, the libs MUST KNOW that going on leftists podcasts and lying in a slick way would still win them some votes and visibility, compared with not going on those podcasts at all, but they can’t even come up with some bullshit response to basic questions.
Briahna was just asking basic questions and logical follow-ups that every lib has already seen on their social media feeds thousands of times in dozens of various forms and should have a prepared lie to counter it, but still doesn’t for some reason!?
Contra doesn’t see any of those points because she blocks literally every single leftist that responds to her with any disagreement. She tunes it out, does not want to engage with literally anything that disagrees with her, and throws a strop when she isn’t unquestioningly worshipped.
I think they could come up with lies but they despise anyone who disagrees with them to such a degree that they refuse to do it. They think the left should just knuckle under and support them as a matter of fact, they don’t think they should lower themselves by trying to actually appeal to the left.
WHAT DID THE “ABANDON HARRIS” VOTERS NOT SUPPORT, NATALIE?"How can someone be this washed? It is almost sad. Why is it so hard for her to admit she’s just wrong?
It’d be great if she went that far, but the saddest truth is that she doesn’t even have to do all that. If she wasn’t addicted to Twitter she could coast the rest of her life on putting out one video essay per year with her established fanbase and avoid controversy by simply not saying things publicly.
The J.K Rowling effect
does it count as washed when she was always a liberal
She was always punching left but at least it was endearing when it was with caricatures characters like Tabitha and Tatiana.
I guess, because liberals can have good work, I remember seeing a few of her videos that were definitely good.
OK fine I’ll go listen to an episode of Bad Faith again. I can’t help but enjoy the schadenfreude of dunking on KKKontraPointϟϟ
Oh cool, she finally removed Virgil Texas from the cover so I can not die of cringe every time I see the show’s icon in my podcast list!
I was in the bathroom of a BedStuy bar in February, doing my thing, when I heard a loud banging on the door.
“Be out in a sec” I said, figuring it was just some drunk.
A second later the lock is picked. Virgil, puffing on a Juul in defiance of local law, steps in. I start to say “what the fu . . . .”, but he cuts me off by blowing his mango vape in my face, along with what smelled like halal cart meat. “Shut up, you lepton” he said, then took out his keys and took a large bump of cocaine. As he replaced them his portable bidet fell from the interior pocket of his cheap blazer. He looked at me again with scorn in his eyes and said “Are you gonna sit there peeing out your doo-doo ass all night?”.
At this point I was getting mad, but as I started to speak he just said “what? What?” loudly as I did. By that time the bartender had come to see what the problem was - before I could say a word Virgil said “hey man, this junkie was shooting up in here, call the cops”.
I was thrown out, and my credit card was left behind at the bar. The worst part was the next day there were 14 Cape Cods and 4 Brandy Alexanders charged to it.
live virgil texas reaction
She did finally take him out of the banner I noticed
You could always not support genocide, it’s not hard
But then celebrated war criminals will stop joining me for videos
If you asked her, I’m sure she’d she doesn’t support genocide and that she doesn’t want it to happen.
But the tenor of that infamous tweet was one of nihilistic resignation, which like… On the one hand it’s kind if a distinction without a difference, the resulting inaction is the same.
But on the other hand, I do think it’s worth distinguishing, because her reasoning is honestly way more frustrating than just outright genocide support. If someone openly supports it, then ok cool, you’re evil and you’re my enemy.
But this kind of nihilistic resignation is… Just fucking annoying. The Palestinian people are still here, and they’ve already been through so damn much. So to throw up you’re hands, as a rich white woman, and say there’s nothing you can do, and that it’s a lost cause, why? Because you saw some upsetting videos online? Because some peopl were mean to you on Twitter?.. It makes me wanna beat my head against a wall! .
If you really boil down what that tweet says, her position is indistinguishable from Ethan Klein’s. That position being Israel is committing a genocide, but calling them out on it is antisemitic. The only difference is that she’s smarter than Ethan and can dress it up in nicer language.
Idk, Ethan doesn’t even pretend to feel bad about the whole genocide thing. There’s absolutely no light in his eyes. He’s opportunistically saying what he needs to.
Natalie, meanwhile, I think genuinely feels horror at the situation, and is so paralyzed by it, and her own stupid twitter addiction, that she’s cajoled herself into a similar position.
It’s like how you can solve a math problem in different ways. At the end of the day they both got to the same conclusion, so in that sense, we can just ¯_(ツ)_/¯ and declare them heinous dipshits. But at the same time, I do think it matters how people get there.
“i don’t mind if i lose a debate to bad faith so im okay with going on a podcast called bad faith”
clip gets posted, claims its bad faith
“how could she do this to me :(”
Do we have a Natalie version of
?Cuz it is the only thing that should be posted in these threads.
Natalie Lose
I think, like a dumbass: maybe this can be productive
many such cases
What is she even doing at this point? She’s not stupid. She’s no Brianna Wu. No doubt that her audience of left-libs is overwhelmingly anti-genocide. Is she actually to the right of John Oliver on Israel?
No doubt that her audience of left-libs is overwhelmingly anti-genocide.
I admire your optimism
The Democratic voterbase is 80% anti-genocide. I don’t think the average Contrapoints viewer is to the right of the average Kamala Harris voter.
At this point I think they might be lol
i mean john oliver is from europe isn’t he? thats a shade of pinko
I think she pivoted to grifting center-right rainbow capitalist libs.
That makes no sense to me. She makes like monthly six figures off of patreon radlibs. If she believed in nothing whatsoever, the correct “grifter” move would be to say “Fuck Israel, free Palestine” and be done with it. Why would she piss off her established pay piggies to appeal to an audience of like 7 Democratic consultants?
She’s to the right of John Oliver on almost everything.
