• FreddiesLantern@leminal.space
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    C: it’s all woke with the trans people on tv and whatnot!

    Me: ok, you could just change the channel.

    C: Well yes, but it’s the idea that they’re forcing it on us.

    Me: Kinda like they did with gay people 20 years ago?

    C: Yeah, but I’m ok with that.

    Me: After 20 years. Like is it possible that as time passes on this will too become just a thing that’s not an issue?

    (And that’s where the conversation quickly went to another topic).

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    Pretty much

    Too bad we haven’t seen any of that for the last decade, it’s only been going downhill

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    The world would be so much better if instead of conservative we used a term like strategic selfishness or something in which it doesn’t mean conserving at all, just being as selfish as possible

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    Better for who? As a poor white person on food stamps I bet 200 years ago I could afford a whole plantation and thousands of slaves to do all the work for me.

    /s but there’s probably people thinking that.

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      I’d say it’s the “wrong” people benefiting that’s the problem.

      Conservatives want to oppress. If they see other people besides themselves benefiting, they get mad.

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        See, when I’m unemployed, I need social security for a couple of years because it’s not my fault and I’ve earned it.

        When you’re unemployed, it’s because you’re lazy

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    The ‘father’ of modern Conservatism was William Buckley.

    He was a Catholic who ignored the fact that back in the day Catholics were widely discriminated against.

    He also ignored the fact that the only reason he was well known was that he had a show on Public Television.

    They are in favor of change as long as it benefits them.

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    Society changes for the better, conservatives, “I don’t want to be considerate of people different than I think they should be.”

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    A huge part of the narrative that conservatives tell themselves as to why they believe what they believe is that better things are not possible. See, they would love to be able to eliminate poverty, ensure everyone can get the healthcare they need, decommodify housing, make efforts to eliminate racism, etc (or so they tell themselves and each other). But any effort by the people themselves (through the collective effort i.e. the government) will at best be ineffective or at worst will have the opposite effect. This is based in… vibes. Or, well, they will point to some book by Thomas Sowell or Mark Levin that puts a serious veneer on those vibes. Or they’ll talk about how everyone in Lord of the Rings wants to make the world better by using the ring/power but that will destroy them and so we can’t have universal healthcare.

    So when something that makes things better actually works (as is often the case whenever a real effort is actually made), it just highlights how ridiculous their position is. I know this is a meme but I’ve literally seen this reaction in real time when I show how it’s done all over the world.

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    They’re “conserving” the values of a white supremacist society that started with native genocide and financed their growth through slavery, coups, incursions, etc… Maybe their grandchildren will rethink that position, who knows.

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    Not trying to shit on anybody but how has the world turned for the better in the last, say, 20 years exactly ?

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      so Ontario up here in Canada actually started putting in some decent bike lanes, with success regarding traffic, walkability, and business traffic

      then good ol’ Dougie went and put a ban on bike lanes that remove vehicle lanes, like the ones that are used as parking 95% of the time and create an extremely hazardous situation for cyclists fitting between vehicle traffic and getting doored. conservatives cheered that after getting pissed at the creation of the lanes.

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      I man it was kinda getting a little better until very recently when these people in the meme took back control and started swinging sledgehammers

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      Not trying to shit on anybody but how has the world turned for the better in the last, say, 20 years exactly ?

      The first thing, right off the top of my head:

      • the portion of people living in abject fucking poverty used to be 40%. Now it’s 10%

      There’s a lot more, but that’s the first thing I remembered. Think of the advancements in solar energy, vaccines, cripsr, and literacy, and you’ll be on the right track.

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        They havent adjusted the poverty line for cost of living in a very long time so I’d challenge that there are less poor people now. There might actually be more.