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just because people may have “changed” doesn’t mean they should be anywhere near a leadership position. I don’t believe he has changed one bit but if he has why is he instantly running for senate and not volunteering at a soup kitchen or something like that
Really takes white guy confidence and entitlement to think he should be running anything after that. It also takes a settler mindset to “see past” all that and voting for this guy.
You had me until the end. Plenty of well meaning individuals would choose that path.
Yeah so many well meaning Auschwitz guards with Nazi tattoos
So many well meaning israeli government supporters who are racist trash.
As established, there’s a lot of reason to doubt Platner is at all well meaning
With the judgement of the people who chose the former path and nothing done to change that. You trust someone who has a Nazi skull on them? That means they’re the baddy.
It’s not about choice but entitlement. If he’s changed, why does he think he is the right person for office? If he is truly altruistic, then it should not matter that he wants or chooses this or the other path. He would do what is best for society.
White male leftists are supposed to figure out, through engagement with the masses (in particular those more marginalized, so basically anybody else), that nobody’s fucking asking what they have to say, or begging that they impose themselves. Sometimes you have to sit one out. You’ll survive.
fucking abu ghraib are you fucking kidding me?
Gtfo this guy was stationed at abu ghraib?
Dude what, everyone looks like a bigger and bigger clown for whitewashing him with esch passing day. What’s next with this guy?
Progressives will tell you that he “was just a guard”. Where have I heard that before?
Ikr? This guy has to be a psyop
“but revolutions need veterans t-” I would put this person on the front lines to die and rot, not as a misleader you vote for in the most evil capitalist state in the world.
The revolution needs militants, militancy, people with military experience, yes, nobody said ‘ a warcrime enjoyer with a nazi tattoo’. I didn’t ask for this, nobody asked for this
Nah he belongs in a prison for war criminals. A bloodthirsty guy like him is exactly who a revolutionary army does not want on the front lines because they’re going to hurt working people who’s support we need. Also his only experience in war is against poorly armed militias he could call airstrikes onto so I doubt he’s really all that talented of a military man.
cannon fodder
Exactly. I mean of course if you’re going to war, having people with war experience help you through common pitfalls is a benefit. I’d absolutely listen to Graham Platner’s advice/leadership if I had a gun in my hand and a gang of fash mercenaries on the horizon. But in any other context he should shut the fuck up and/or die.
I’d absolutely listen to Graham Platner’s advice/leadership if I had a gun in
Platner: okay so back in my days of combat in situation we would’ve called an airstrike on an orphanage near by
or used grenade launchers instead of the mortars we were forced to stop using out of civilian casualties concerns
gang of fash mercenaries on the horizon.
I don’t know if I’d be trusting the nazi tattoo guy in that specific instance. Maybe if it was a group of unarmed Muslim families it might be more in his area of expertise.
Real veteran revolutionary is Greg Levy running for Ohio Senate.
I’m frankly a bit confused about what this guy’s deal is.
Like is he trying to do Nazi entryism into left? If he is you’d think he’d do a better job covering up all the Nazi shit he did. Is he a CIA plant? Same issue as the last one, you’d think they’d pick a dude with a cleaner resume. Is his current stated progressive views genuine and he just had some kind of epiphany? If that’s his story you’d think he’d run on that, “I used to be a violent CHUD but now I’ve seen the light!” but nah he downplays it. Does he not see any contradiction between his past actions and his current politics?
Maybe he’s just a typical liberal opportunist who is a little more honest about his fascism than most.
This is my read. He’s just a dumbass
My theory is that he used to be an actual nazi, but then turned into a lib but he was ashamed of his nazi past so instead of owning up to it, he keep making up lies like he was edgy or he didnt know he got a nazi tatoo in order to save face
I don’t think he’s ashamed of it because he would have gotten that death’s head removed or covered long ago if he had even the slightest shame. He’s genuinely the perfect DNC candidate, he’s a liberal who is comfortable slipping into the fascist defense of capitalism when it suits him without any ideological change or shift needed.
He’s genuinely the perfect DNC candidate
This really doesn’t make sense when you account for his anti-Zionist rhetoric. Why would the DNC normalize a candidate who just yesterday during a NYT interview said AIPAC money is disqualifying and US aid to Israel should be cut off completely?
The DNC would not do that
Its just politics.
Susan Collins is a literal dragon, Platner has the best run on her. Keep in mind, the DNC varies in strength and organization. I think it shows Platner’s campaign is willing to “play ball” in order to, however unlikely, make a good run at that senate seat. I’d say its more likely the DC consultant class that defines the national org (a class that is objectively on the back-foot, as the left is gaining nationally, albeit with mixed outcomes) thinks Platner is their best bet at an already extremely unlikely upset.
I think they have a read on him that would put him closer to Fetterman in the Senate. I think Platner is kind of dumb but upsetting Collins would be hilarious. And Platner has managed to get national attention, even pretty early on. I think he’s just objectively the best odds in this race.
But I’m not to the point of even critically supporting him. I don’t think he’s earned a goddamn thing, being a highly problematic ex military pseudo anarchist or whatever doesnt make him qualified to lead our movements. But I think part of Platner’s viability is because of a very weak bench in this race. Maine DNC clearly isn’t creating or recruiting good leadership, which is a persistant problem in many political orgs.
Because he will never follow through, he’s an experiment in the new move of distancing from AIPAC while normalizing and taking funds from other Zionist orgs that are less notorious
It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t follow through; they would still be normalizing anti-Zionist politics and proving it’s a winning campaign strategy. The DNC and its Israeli allies would never in a million years sign off on that, they don’t want anti-Zionism to be normalized under any circumstance, let alone under the context of a Senate race
taking funds from other Zionist orgs that are less notorious
What are these orgs?
Then why are they backing him? Schumer endorsed. Regarding the Zionist PACs that operate as low key alternatives to AIPAC, I don’t have a list on me but I can pull up some references when I’m back at my desk later.
Then why are they backing him?
They’re not backing him, he’s winning by unprecedented margins, and their zionist pet Janat Mills ate shit and dropped out, so it’s a mixture of damage control and not giving up the kayfabe and endorsing the Republican candidate. Remember, this is Maine; Schumer can’t hide there behind media noise or silence like he can in other states; it’s too small and white, the Democratic party in that state would implode. So he gave Platner a mealy-mouthed endorsement
Also as an irrelevant aside, Platner somehow did the impossible and transformed the r/Maine sub into an anti-Zionist hub, a US STATE SUBREDDIT, I literally said out loud, WTF? I mean if this is the DNC’s plan, I say don’t interrupt the enemy
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Sure they would. Look at Fetterman, Sinema, AOC…
None of those people ever normalized anti-zionism or correctly articulated class as a relationship to the means of production; Platner literally did that yesterday in his NYT interview
It’s like the spirits of the Gravel kids possessed him or something; it was bizarre
Nah. I see them; and more clearly and cleanly than I ever did.
I think he’s a plant.
What if he wants healthcare and whatnot for himself and others but he just uh he just really likes killing people
He even wants to help others kill with the desire to increase navy ship building
Oh is that something he’s running on?
Shit that would actually explain a lot.
He is a CIA plant doing nazi entryism into the left
To what end though? Like is there a particularly vibrant leftist movement in Maine nobody told me about?
Also seems like there’d be better candidates to do this than the guy with a straight up Nazi tattoo on his chest.
I don’t , a blood thirsty ex-imperial with a nazi tattoo is kind of what they’d want to discredit the anti-Israel anti-war left…
If that’s the case you’d think there’s be a lot more pro-Israel outlets and figures harping on this guy’s big ass Nazi tattoo.
Yet I only ever see this guy get talked about in leftist spaces, the right doesn’t even seem to notice him. Are they waiting till if/when he’s elected to go on the attack about it?
Annnnd he’s seeing someone about his bloodlust towards innocents, right?
Right?!
The someones he’s seeing about it: His DNC staffers
We need to start calling them the Abu Ghraib torture camp left.
Again is this a critic of Maine if this is the best they can do to be a progressive or just the only one who said yes to running when asked.
He is against funding for israel. That’s basically the only important issue this election cycle. Fuck the Israeli government and anyone who supports them in any capacity.
He’ll be against funding for Israel right up until he gets elected. Just like he was opposed to wars and protested them right up until he joined the military so he could go do wars. And how he then protested the wars after he got out of the military, then signed up with Blackwater.
Remember when Biden promised to erase student loan debt?
I wonder why leftists don’t trust Democrats anymore
To be fair, Platner is an old school type democrat (willing to lie). Kamala and the rest of the longterm Dems have completely abandoned even that simple conceit, they just expect us to vote for them while they sneer at policies they would have felt compelled to pretend to support a scant eight years ago.
Partner and I would be done with ours if that had actually happened. Instead we just got them restarted under Biden!
We’ll see, I hope he’s not a fetterman but at least he is the one speaking the truth in his district at the moment as opposed to the status quo, which is the same.
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I hope so, he’s better than the alternative based on what he says
