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      A lot of the wines are out of California. Both the state as a whole and the wine-producing regions in it tend to not be too keen on Trump.

      searches

      https://wineamerica.org/policy/by-the-numbers/

      California makes 85% of all US wine

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_Country

      Wine Country is a region of California, in the northern San Francisco Bay Area, known worldwide as a premier wine-growing region.[1]

      There are over 1,700 wineries in the North Bay, mostly located in the area’s valleys, including Napa Valley in Napa County, and the Sonoma Valley,

      https://www.pressdemocrat.com/2024/11/08/an-early-look-at-the-trumpharris-vote-in-sonoma-napa-and-other-bay-area-counties/

      Sonoma County voters, with 52% of votes counted as of Friday morning, firmly supported Harris with 72% of the vote, compared to 25% for Trump.

      In Napa County, which had counted 32% of votes, Harris had 64%, compared to Trump’s 33%.

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        In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They’re also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that’s a whole other discussion.

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        Who do you think makes up that 33%?

        Do you think it’s the normal people, or the obscenely wealthy vineyard owners? Take a wild guess.

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        That’s California’s problem with the rest of their own country and their POTUS, not Canada’s problem.

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        Won’t someone think of the poor poor drug dealing capitalists with their measly 40 billion dollar industry!

        The valley itself may have split in Harris’ favor, but how do you suppose the private owners and the shareholders of the publicly traded wine companies voted? Do you think the people who actually pick and ferment the grapes would be that much better off if Canadians had never left the market? As if any downsizing and job-loss wasn’t already in the chamber and waiting for a convenient excuse to do what the ownership class was always gonna do anyway.

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    Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight…boycotts work.

    My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.

    I don’t miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.

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    Canada’s boycott of U.S. wines ‘causing devastating harm,’

    That’s the point, dumbass.

    If you want it to stop, talk to the clown in the white house.

    This boycott wouldn’t be happening if he didn’t decide to threaten, insult and attack Canada.

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    false. the US administration is on record saying they don’t need us.

    do you doubt dear leader?

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    I’m trying to use as few american products as I can. It is nit easy as they have infected everyday life too much.

    Not buying Nestlé is much simpler

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    California senators don’t get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don’t want to buy American garbage anymore so I’m not doing it.

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        Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.

        For me those last words, “as an expression of protest” are important. For me there’s no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.

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    I’m a Californian and support the boycott. But the majority of comments in here are misguided.

    This is like commenting on an article you haven’t read about the First Minister of Scotland saying how negative Brexit is for Scotland, and responding “You shouldn’t have voted Brexit then, dumbass!”

    No shit. Probably why they didn’t overwhelmingly.

    Also kinda like how California has consistently, overwhelmingly, voted against Trump, and is one of the most oppositional states in the country against his fascist regime.

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      Idk how useful is to try to separate regions or groups in a democracy. Did those winery owners votes for Trump? Did they complain a lot when the US menaced Canada with an invasion?

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    Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!

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    It’s pretty simple. No complicated economic theory here. If you fuck around…

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    I won’t be buying a hovercraft either, so let them say I’m “causing devastating harm” to the hovercraft industry.

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    As though acting like assholes wouldn’t hurt us. /s

    I saw a headline last night about how building new housing is impacted by a labor shortage. I wonder how that happened. The repercussions are beginning to appear in ways that average people notice. It’s not gonna be pleasant. Got what you voted for, assholes (USA citizen, can’t believe we did this to ourselves again).

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    Trump gained 2.2 billion dollars in wealth since taking office.

    Him reading about this news from California is making his week so much brighter. You folks cheering - you should drop by the white house!

    Lemmy continues to be so empty headed on certain topics… So eager for those rare wins that you’re willing to snatch them from your allies.

    It’s very American, I must admit.

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        i think the point is y’all should go and do the romanov manover on the pissface

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          Allied intelligence realized that it would be far worse to kill Adolf Hitler and have him replaced with someone competent then allow him to continue fumbling things.

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            yea, it would require complete overhaul of everything to start fixing things :/

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    Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn’t such a great idea.

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      It’s not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.

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        Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.

        It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.

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          Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.

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            You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.

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          I would agree that CA isn’t really the problem

          hurt CA and you’re hurting the US

          Republicans in CA

          I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, “CA” would refer to Canada, as it’s literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.

          And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.

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            That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I’ll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I’d not heard of 3166. Thanks).

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          CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is

          Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1

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            And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?

            You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.

            All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.

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              You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter

              I’ve seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.

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              Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.

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        I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.

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        I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.

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        It’s not California being a dick.

        California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.

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        Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it

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          I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.

          This would cause so much chaos

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            That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return

            Also most countries like the UN rules

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              I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.

              It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.

              Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts

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                Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA’s bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.

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        It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.

        This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.

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        Well it’s not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can’t individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.