The amount of hate for this movie is so silly. I am not going to the theater to watch maybe one night I’ll pirate it somewhere but my lord people just want something to cry about anymore I think.
The same people who cry about cancel culture are the ones dragging this and any other movie that doesn’t fit their weird vision through the mud.
Far better things to rage at Hollywood and media than this. I bet none of you even know the guy who came up with the Odyssey
Why didn’t they just say Christopher Nolan? I thought they were talking about someone else because they didn’t say his name.
This pretty much stems from Elon Musk shit-stirring as if he wrote the original book, and was unhappy with the movie adaptation. And, as we all know, he’s vehemently anti-transgender. His son ‘died’ (his words, ‘my son is dead’) because of the woke transgender conspiracy mob who want to make children different genders, or whatever bullshit idea he pushes to get attention, and have dull bigots praise him. Low hanging fruit combined with a god complex makes Elon a happy dickhead.
For the record, Elon Musk’s daughter is well alive hilarious. She regularly shits all over her insane narcissist Nazi father. He disowned her but all he really did was set her free.
Important to note that all the numerous children from Musk from his many wives are all conceived with artificial insemination in order for him to select the gender and ensure he has only boys.
What the… first time I hear this. What a freak.
I remember reading an interview from his first wife, I can’t find it online anymore, here is an article that talks about: https://www.tyla.com/entertainment/celebrity/elon-musk-first-wife-justine-wilson-remark-why-divorce-790646-20250402
In short, she had 6 kids from Musk, 2 times triplets, all artificial inseminations, one of them is his only daughter Vivian.
i think conservatives are more bothered that elliot paige transition from ellen paige, than not.
It’s respectful not to say deadnames.
“I think conservatives are more bothered that Elliot Paige is transgender.” Simple.
It’s gotta be tough for him (and anyone else that transitioned after being famous). I imagine that would be very difficult to have so many very public reminders. It feels like only a mild comfort to know that we have the technology and thought to change the credits in previous movies, but I’m not sure it would be enough if it I was in that situation.
A lot of conservatives probably jacked off to Ellen and don’t want to face certain questions about themselves when seeing Elliot.
I have a feeling right-wingers are gonna complain that the studio, Nolan, Page, et al are shoving this down their throats like the whole bud light thing. But if it’s anything like that…they wouldn’t even know about it if focks nooz, noozmacks and other propaganda outlets didn’t run it endlessly
Those conservatives think a lot about things being shoved down their throats…
How dare people call Achilles LGBTQ? Sure, he had lots of gay sex, but that was very manly gay sex, so that doesn’t count!
My favorite take is when they argue the gay sex wasn’t gay because their culture didn’t have gay and it was just guys doing bro stuff
Well hurr… if you watch the original movie this movie was based on you’d know he was super straight and just really sad that his cousin Patroclus who he was totally completely just friendly with died. It’s no homo, bromo!
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I’m sure Elliot Page will be just fine. I’ve always enjoyed his acting.
‘cousin’
Just like on Sailor Moon.
“Slams” is a clickbait title.
His actual reaction seems to be “That noise it not worth a single thought of mine.”
I skip anything with slam, destroy, trash, or other words are in the title.
“Newsmax anchor Rob Finnerty was particularly upset, in part because he seemed to believe that Achilles was a historical figure, not a mythological one.”
Hol up. Telling me that the right wing doesn’t read, can’t tell history from fiction, and judges things based on feelings? Hmm 🤔
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if there was a historical Achilles; the city of Troy did exist, and seems to have been razed, so some form of the Trojan War seems to have happened. I’d expect them to be like King Arthur, though, where the stories we have about them are almost completely divorced from reality.
he is a newsmax host for a reason.
If I could have just one superpower it would be to make these clowns feel the acute embarrassment that they should be feeling.
I’m not sure that’d be my pick, but it’s a good one.
Oh, can you imagine if suddenly they all, including Trump, and McConnell, woke up filled with all the SHAME of everything they’ve shamelessly done in their life, all at once? Alito and Thomas… And the billionaires too…
Like when the inmates of Arkham were temporarily given empathy?
Except permanently. Because if it wore off they’d be worse than ever out of rage
It’s a good thing @IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf chose it then so the rest of us can stick with teleportation or flight or whatever
Those things are pretty neat but imagine giving Trump a dose of self-awareness mid-rant followed by his immediate resignation and surrender to the authorities.
Pretty sure if he felt the shame and embarrassment he deserves for his actions he wouldn’t even make it two steps before his heart gave out.
There must be a downside?
The actually semi-intelligent demons that are pulling his strings slide the next puppet into place, and the show goes on.
Vance is up next if Trump kicks the bucket mid stride, and he’s as much a piece of shit as Trump, just less of a paper trail.
Right-wing criticisms can always be safely ignored. They’re never genuine or good-faith about anything.
Why ignore them? I’d consider it an endorsement!
I didn’t know Elliot Page was still working. I’ve only seen his work before the transition (and with the deadname) and he’s a good actor. Gender assigned at birth is not a valid factor in criticising an actor. In Shakespearean times, men played women and vice versa. Acting has always been about stepping outside of how you were made and into a role that you convince the audience is real. Page does good work.
I had to look him up on IMDb. It’s unfortunate they only list movies where he was cast as a girl as the notable roles. I mean, leave Juno and Hard Candy since those films established him, but put a couple roles up where he played a guy.
He is a pretty small dude, though I wouldn’t say there weren’t small Romans (or was it Greeks?).
In Shakespearean times, men played women and vice versa.
You’re mistaken here. In Shakespeare’s time, all actors were male. Female roles were played by pre-pubescent boys. A woman acting on stage was considered as shameful as being a prostitute.
Anyway, what really gets me on the size thing is that this could have been easily fixed! They routinely change the heights of both male and female actors in movies, making them shorter or taller as necessary by the script. It’s trivial to do so using costuming and camera tricks. There is zero reason they couldn’t have just made Elliot Page bigger. They do it for short cis male actors all the damn time.
There were always small people but small people being in the army? I mean he was small when he was a female and I don’t doesn’t look like he got any bigger.
People complaining about the helmets.
Me: yeah, that’s a valid criticism. And a conversation about this is interesting.
People complaining cause the girl they used to masturbate to is now a boy and is taking film roles that suit their current gender.
Me: you all can go to hell. Don’t like, don’t go see it. I’ll buy an extra ticket to make up for your shameful bullshit.
Elliot Page as Achilles? Sweet. I mean, I would have thought that his youthful and sweet face would be a good pick for Telemachus, or maybe Polites. But hell yeah, I can’t wait to see his performance.
I don’t know if you’ve seen recent pictures but he has gotten fairly buff. Most likely in preparation for this film.
He’s become so handsome, I genuinely hope he’s proud of how far he’s come.
I don’t care how buff they have gotten. He’s like 5’1 and a hundred pounds. And yes mass matters someone would just through him to the side very easily.
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Isn’t Achilles like, magically strong though?
Movie magic makes Tom Cruise and (other) geriatrics into action heroes every day lol.
Haven’t watched it yet, so, I can’t say how well he actually did in it. I definitely thought he was an off choice for Achilles, though. He’s just so tiny to play a renowned warrior. I haven’t seen any images of him… but, unless he built up the same cut as that tiny Tom Holland, I get questioning the casting. Unfortunately, all the fucking transphobes are drowning out any justified criticism.
As others have pointed out, Elliott isn’t cast as Achilles. I was curious who he was cast as and it’s Sinon, the Greek who tricked the Trojan’s into bringing the horse inside the city of Troy. Fun fact, Sinon is in neither the Iliad nor the oddesey. He’s described in the Aeneid.
I have, admittedly, not looked too deep into the finer details of this movie… so, I was only aware of the backlash towards him playing Achilles. Did not verify who was playing what.
All good, I didn’t intend my statement as a criticism, just passing along a neat factoid I found after getting curious. Apologies if it came across that way :)
No worries! I didn’t take it as a criticism. I’d rather learn factoids than get butthurt about something I’m ignorant on!
He isn’t even playing Achilles. That was just an assumption by all the complainers.
Seriously!? Ha!! Guess that explains why I haven’t seen any images of him.
That’s so fucking funny.
I checked IMDb. He wasn’t cast as Achilles. Snowflakes are just mad trans people exist, and this one can act.
I’m looking at themoviedb and not only does Paige not play Achilles, Achilles isn’t even in the movie. Although I suppose they could be keeping it a secret.
Achilles dies in the Iliad, which precedes the Odyssey, right?
Edit after skimming wikipedia: The ghost/spirit of Achilles is briefly in Book 11 of The Odyssey
Well, not directly in the Iliad, no. His death is not mentioned there. Other sources imply he died at the end of the Trojan war, the last couple of days being the topic of the Iliad.
The Odyssey begins roughly 10 years after the fall of Troy, so yes, Achilles would have been dead almost 10 years, give or take a few weeks or months, depending on who you ask.
For completeness, Odysseus himself had already left his home Ithaca 10 years prior to when the Odyssey starts, so roughly at the same time Troy falls.
Interesting that his death isn’t actually in the Iliad. It sounded so unlikely that I double checked online but you’re right!
For completeness, Odysseus himself had already left his home Ithaca 10 years prior to when the Odyssey starts, so roughly at the same time Troy falls.
I’m pretty sure Odysseus sails to Troy at the start of the war? He’s one of the guys who brings Achilles. And then is one of Agamemnons backers and advisers.
So he leaves his home 20 years before the Odyssey starts - 10 years of war, 10 years post war
Yes, you are absolutely correct regarding the 20 years. I absolutely got myself confused at the end trying to align the timelines.
Sure, but the movie could open with the ending of the Illiad to explain why he was away from home in the first place.
Yes typical blame or put on a facade of a <insert nouned minority group> to artificially generate internet noise
