I know now to stay away from dating people who have any trace of racism towards me. I don’t understand why this happens though. Just that there’s a corelation.

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    Honestly, if I have to be frank, it’s because race fetishism is racism.

    People too often get in this mentality that “benevolent racism” is not a form of racism, but it is.

    It may manifest differently than how people perceive a Klansman’s racism, but it is still racism.

    It stems from the same objectifying mentality that dehumanizes people, strips them of their characteristics as individuals, and reifies pseudoscientific tropes that get packaged into categories we know as “races.”

    Also, some answers here center right-wingers specifically, but to be clear, race fetishism is not an issue specific to right-wingers. Not even close. If anything, it is one of the most common forms of racism for leftists to engage in because it is a lot more socially acceptable, especially since we have many unconscious POC who see no issue with it and lean into it, so pushback is too damn rare.

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      If anything, it is one of the most common forms of racism for leftists to engage in…

      This is so true and honestly I think most conscious yt ppl know it’s racism in their heart but actively refuse to accept their own introspection. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve had to reassure my boyfriend he’s not being too sensitive when some fwb lets the race play slip and turns my love into a sex object.

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        It can be, but it is not necessarily always the case. I guess I should’ve specified that clearly. Race fetishism alone, even without such an obsessive hatred precipitating it, is still a form of racism. I see aggressive racial hatred and racial fetishism as stemming from the same mentality—an objectifying or degrading one—either way, no different than how sexually objectifying women, be it in a performative “nice guy” fashion or in the manner of some manosphere bro, is in and of itself misogynistic. On the surface, they may just appear to manifest in different ways.

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          I guess I should’ve specified that clearly. Race fetishism alone, even without such an obsessive hatred precipitating it, is still a form of racism

          no i got that and you’re objectively correct

          I see aggressive racial hatred and racial fetishism as stemming from the same mentality—an objectifying or degrading one—either way, no different than how sexually objectifying women, be it in a performative “nice guy” fashion or in the manner of some manosphere bro, is in and of itself misogynistic. On the surface, they may just appear to manifest in different ways.

          i think we’re talking past eachother a little.

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      All those dopamine receptors fried from the constant consumption of porn… you’re definitely right

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          Other comments kinda got me thinking about it more abstractly lol.

          The taboo feeling probably makes them feel something new compared to the consumption of their regular stuff.

          It could be the “step-bro” stuff that’s so widely consumed now, to “interracial cuckoldry” that didn’t previously have a wide consumption base to getting normalized.

          Maybe I’m being an armchair psychologist but I have seen people (mainly work acquaintances) discussing their porn consumption habits and I was baffled at what they feel is normal to discuss with their coworkers.

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    Objectification of women, reducing them down to their value in sex. Of course men get race fetishized by women, and it happens with non-hetero people, but I imagine it all stems from how the patriarchy treats sex as conquest.

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    race play is gross to me. I suppose it can be consensual but it gives me ick.

    I mostly have dated outside my race but it really hasn’t been by design. I met my boyfriend on grindr and part of the reason I wanted to connect with him was because his profile said “I am NOT your BBC” (the other reason was that he looked hot in kakashi cosplay)

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    I think generally it is due to conservative indoctrination from birth installing the bigotry and that eventually being in conflict with their actual desires. Their families and/or religions tell them what to think before puberty and then eventually they grow up and can’t help but be sexually attracted to whoever they are into, but their brains keep repeating that it is forbidden. This type of repressive spiraling leads to more and more drastic behavior due to shame and guilt as they are forced to hide their inner truth from themselves and their communities. We see this with homophobia and trans chasers as well