Btw, why are there none that are USB-rechargeable but use a AAA akku cell?
I get it on the “light” models because it is heavy compared to others but I’d love to see like a MMO mouse just embrace it with a full fat like Type D battery
First thought this is some sci-fi spaceship rendezvous scene.
It’s a great example how great this law is. Of couse Logitech has no incentive to produce easily repairable mice. If I replace the battery in mine after several years of use, I will not buy a new mouse from Logitech.
The fucked up thing is it would be cheaper to make all of their batteries replaceable, because it’s more expensive to manufacture two different kinds. But they’ll spend extra money to make a worse product in other countries because it will make them more money.
I’ll just stick with my wired one
If it doesn’t have a cable it’s not a mouse, but a hamster!
Lmao
Great to see Europe leading the way here. If other jurisdictions pass similarly responsible legislation, then those jurisdictions will gain similar benefits.
It’s called Brussel effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect?wprov=sfla1
And hopefully eventually it won’t be profitable to make special difficult ones for the US (though it is a big market)
And in the meantime, I’ll look for a euro-spec model on ebay…
I kind of think that the majority of people using wireless mice would probably be better off just using corded mice.
There are some use cases where wireless is really valuable, like if one needs to move a mouse around a conference room or something.
But…I would guess that a tiny fraction of a percentage of users of wireless mice are doing something like that. Most just sit on a desk by the computer they are driving. Instead, wireless is generally just sold as the “premium” option for mice.
And wireless has a number of drawbacks that come with it.
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Needing to manage battery charge in another device (or replace batteries, if they’re replaceable).
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More cost.
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More weight.
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If the battery isn’t removable — and that one at least is addressed here — at some point, that device is going to stop working. I have very elderly USB wired devices that work just fine; USB has been around for a long time and probably will stay around, and even if it goes away, will probably have adapters show up. Battery lifetimes haven’t generally done so well with my inexpensive gadgets; I have a horde of things with lithium batteries that are now non-functional. I was looking into getting a light pad (a portable light table) the other day, and was specifically looking for one without a lithium battery, because I didn’t want the thing to stop working at some point; light table technology probably isn’t going to change much in the future. I don’t know if I’d call a USB-based device something that I’d really “buy for life”, but I’d be far more ready to do that than try to do so with any device with a built-in battery.
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Latency. For most users, not a huge issue, but it seems wild to me that in a world where a number of video game players do things like disable vsync or things like that to try to shave down input latency a tiny bit, someone would just casually use the (often varying) latency of a wireless mouse.
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Dropouts. I remember using a wireless Logitech F710 game controller. One day, a radio frequency device showed up in the area that happened to interfere with it, and every now and then, you’d have a few seconds where the gamepad wouldn’t respond. Wired busses avoid the problem.
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Privacy. Not a huge issue for a fixed system, but Bluetooth identifiers can be used to track, say a laptop user, if someone with an Apple or Google phone using Location Services goes anywhere near you.
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Security. Wireless devices can be talked to and heard a long ways away, if you have a directional antenna. Maybe you trust your wireless protocol (and I’d probably trust Bluetooth more than I would the proprietary 2.4 GHz protocols that some devices use), but I’d sooner trust a wire than a radio transmitter.
There are some benefits.
A cable can produce a small amount of resistance, and some people who play video games don’t want that interference with their aim — but there are devices to even deal with that:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=mouse+bungee
There’s a bit less time to plug in a cable if you have a laptop that you’re constantly pulling down and setting up again. That’s not huge, but it does add up.
It could be a bit less tangle, but…man, even if you have a ton of cables atop your desk, there are usually much simpler ways to deal with “I have a rat’s nest of cables”. Stick a Velcro cable management tie on the thing or something.
I look at that, and I just have a hard time saying “the pros are a great tradeoff for the cons for most”.
With WiFi, say, I get a wireless argument. There’s a common use case where you haul a device long distances around a building and running cables everywhere is a hassle. But for most mouse use, that same situation just doesn’t arise.
Good run down, though I’ll add one more: being a parent, wireless mice and keyboards get moved around and played with by young children. I often find my mouse managed to end up with all the toys, for instance, and if I left it on, random stuff gets clicked in the mayhem.
That said, the cable is still a non starter in the living room set since, y’know, tripping hazard. Funny enough, wireless headsets and controllers are much more important since kids (mostly toddlers) will get you tangled up managing them. When my daughter was a newborn, a wireless controller while rocking her back and forth let me play one handed games. Vampire Survivors got me through those long nights… lol.
would just casually use the (often varying) latency of a wireless mouse.
Fun fact: Some setups even still have “old-school” PS2 plugs because they are lower latency than USB.
I use a wired mouse even while using my computer from the couch. Actual use would be easier with a wireless mouse but i find the pros of the wired still win. The major con is the wires are always in they way. It gives the area a messy vibe and are always on the floor, interfering with stuff like sweeping or vacuuming, but it beats changing the batteries constantly and eventually losing the dongle. Wired mouses in my experience also tend to be more robust and cheaper, so they survive more drops to the floor than their wireless counterparts. And when that mouse does eventually break, it is cheaper to replace.
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its not complicated. gamer mice are super easy to repair. nintendo product on the other hand…
I’m confused. I have three Logitech mice and they all just use AAA batteries.
The ones you see there are gaming mice specifically made to be rechargeable on the fly with a PowerPlay mousepad, so they have rechargeable battery.
Logitech also has some models that charge over UBB C. (Or recently used to have…) I have no idea if these models will get replaceable battery, though.
Afaik there won’t an exemption for computer mice.
The rest of the world will just order bootleg eu versions from AliExpress
I thought you gonna buy it from Europe! Some USA people already planning to buy Nintendo switch for Europe…
Or eBay lol
All mice should look like space ships.
