He was Chinese but that’s okay, he was a veteran and a patriot, great great man, they named the chicken after him, it’s true, no one has ever seen that before. trump-anguish

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    Hegseth would hear the generals saying that the troops are running short on food and say they’re being whiny babies that need to learn to man up and not be so greedy.

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        Is inbred really ableism though when talking about feudal nobility? Genuinely curious. And I say this as someone that generally is on board with things like stupid etc being ableist.

        Inbred though? Like that’s just kind of fact.

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          If it is then the argument is probably that it’s poor form to make fun of something they inherited as opposed to what they did.

          They can always choose to not be warhawks, they can’t choose to not be inbred.

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            Yeah for sure but in this case we are talking about inbreeding as a practice of keeping pure bloodlines and its disastrous consequences which itself IS a choice.

            Now if it were used to mock people of small isolated populations for whom it is a genuine concern that’s a whole different problem and topic but in the case of the OP I don’t think it is at all ableist.

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              i think you need a second thing to make inbred ableist and that part is generally going to be ableist on its own too.

              “inbred hick” is probably punching down and not a generational purity thing, “inbred nobles” is punching up, and i’d argue it’s not really about one guy but the whole family system and how they all behave because of their class position.

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                  Because it’s heterosexual. I mean there are other problems with it too, like the grooming and abuse that goes along with and perpetuates it, but it can never escape that one.

                  Ok but seriously, how are we at the point where someone actually feels the need to question what’s wrong with an institution of young girls being served up to older male relatives for the sake of property, blood “purity”, and alliances between powerful property owners? Like obviously all of these aristocrats would still be vile, evil things, the proverbial scum that floated to the top, without their abuses including incest specifically, but their metaphorically incestuous system is both bad and also literally incestuous too.

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            Oh for sure and I’m not even saying we should not avoid it as an insult but I also think adding it to the list of ableist words kinda diminishes that definition. It’s definitely something different but in the context of feudal nobility it definitely is not ableism.

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          The problem with inbreeding is that it leads to disabilities. There’s not really any moral reasons not to have sex your cousins that you wouldn’t also have with a childhood friend.

          So for it to work as an insult would mean it’s implying that they are disabled.

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                yes it would have an ableist term in it where it did not before and would be referring to whatever that was instead of the tendency of old noble families to inbreed for generations out of some proto eugenic purity ideals.

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                  I’m gonna approach this from a different angle. I grew up in a rural part of north America where the term “inbred” was synonymous with mentally handicapped. I actually know a lot of inbred people. Hence why I was the first here to point out that it’s a slur.