It feels like a lot of people are getting into “millennial optimism”, but it feels a lot like hipster shit.

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    Ive been called a hipster and im an Xer. I have also been called a boomer, nerd, geek, dork, and a whole bunch of things that kinda mean the same thing. Also facist capitalist and communist. Its funny how these things are.

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      What about bitch, lover, child, mother? Are you a sinner and a saint? Do you feel ashamed?

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        There was definitely a time for millennials where hipster was a defined aesthetic to that generation.

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          when I was called one I think its because I was dressed down on a bike with long hair. it was younger folk who likely no longer thought hippie when seeing that look.

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          Yeah, but as an aesthetic definition, millenial is more a correlational than ontological. Most hipsters would be millenial, but they all don’t have to be. Put a boomer in skinny jeans, oil their beard, and put a craft heifeweisen in their hand and you’ll have a hipster.

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            I’m not using the term millennial as the new word for hipster, but “millennial optimism”. Your response seems to be cutting that out.

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    Hipster was largely replaced with performative a while ago. Although I’m usually behind the times so that term may have also been replaced by now.

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    No.

    Hipster to me was just the trust fund kids who wanted to cosplay as working class. They never went away, just the popularity of the term. They were mostly contrasting themselves with the people who had office jobs and thus had to dress for the office and were more ‘yuppie’ in their aesthetic.

    And where I live there are still lots and lots of hipster types, though the working-class aesthetic isn’t ‘peak’ anymore, it’s considered more niche and the younger trust fundies are much more about conspicuously and overtly displaying their wealth.

    That said, I know plenty of people who are like 35-50, who dress like they make 40K a year, and they make 500K a year, and they identify as ‘poor working class’. Also a lot of them gave up being a hipster once they got full access to their trust in their 30s/40s. Turns out being authentic working in a bicycle shop/cafe/bar for 30K a year isn’t something you want to do when your 1.5million trust is available…

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      6 days ago

      So you’ve defined millennial hipster, but what would you say makes it different from millennial optimism?

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        I have no idea what that term is, I have never heard of it until this post. Sounds like some counter-doomer trend on social media where folks are being ‘optimistic’ to contrast them from the endless glowering about how the world is awful. Which I could see older and established millennials gleefully participating in to distinguish themselves from the younger folks who are screeching about how broke and mentally ill they are 24/7, and well, like half of the millennials who do that too.

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          I have seen “millennial optimism” in part presented as a fashion trend or aesthetic.