A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO
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“Yea I’m not buying. But I will be watching it tank.”

A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO | Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.::Reddit seems like a likely candidate for a meme stock. But the actual reaction suggests that r/WallStreetBets isn’t going to send the stock to the moon.

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.caEnglish
    2841·
    4 months ago

    Reminder that shorting is a high risk play and you should never make investment decisions out of spite.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
      976·
      4 months ago

      A reminder that the stock market and any kind of high level money market of any kind including digital money … is a rich man’s game where poor are by design destined to lose.

      • JDubbleu@programming.devEnglish
        254·
        4 months ago

        This is a gross over simplification. Yes, rich people can have higher risk tolerance, but that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be going long on index funds and otherwise safe, low risk investments for retirement with what they can afford to.

        • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          151·
          4 months ago

          Yes, rich people can have higher risk tolerance

          It’s not just risk tolerance. The very rich can manipulate the market in ways that the poor can’t.

          • JDubbleu@programming.devEnglish
            101·
            4 months ago

            You don’t need to manipulate markets to dollar cost average the S&P500 for 40 years and retire. This is a get rich slow scheme that’s worked since the inception of index funds.

            • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              Yeah, and some rich people may do that. But, other rich people aren’t satisfied with the returns of an index fund, so they’ll manipulate the markets to get higher returns.

              • JDubbleu@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                4 months ago

                I don’t know what you’re trying to get at. The original comment stated the stock market is a rich man’s game that poor men are designed to lose. I pointed out that anyone with extra income can take advantage of the stock market and not lose. Just because rich people can take advantage of market manipulation doesn’t mean poor people have to lose.

        • msage@programming.devEnglish
          11·
          4 months ago

          And then listen to every asshole yell ‘but think of their retirements!!1!’ when the stock market shits itself.

          Fuck this system. It’s original intent is way long gone, and we should stop pretending it’s helping anyone but the rich.

    • debounced@kbin.run
      541·
      4 months ago

      100%, this is a trap being set for retail investors… not touching this even if I had a 1000ft pole.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldEnglish
            151·
            4 months ago

            It is true.

            You buy a stock for $30. At worst it gets to $1 and you lose $29.

            You short a stock for $30. There is no upper limit to how high it can go.

            • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              171·
              4 months ago

              Yeah, if there’s a “Superstonk” style event, the shares might jump to $1000 per share.

              Say you shorted 100 shares. If you shorted it at $30, the absolute maximum you could make is just under $30 per share, or $3000. But, if it jumps to $1000 per share, you would lose $970 per share, and owe $97,000.

              Maybe it’s not technically possible for there to be “no upper limit” to what you could lose, but you could easily lose many multiples of the maximum possible gain.

            • Syntha@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              61·
              4 months ago

              No. There are lots of ways to short a stock which just means betting that a stock will fall. If you buy Puts you go short, you can only lose the money you spent on the Puts. What you are talking about is unhedged short selling but that is far from the only method to short a stock.

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      4 months ago

      To quote XKCD’s “Engineer Syllogism”:

      1. I am good with numbers and math.

      2. The stock market is mostly numbers and math.

      3. Therefore, I would be – wait, where did all my money go?

    • bradorsomething@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      It will be about a week until options come out. A put option simulates renting 100 shares of a stock over a time period, and collecting the difference between the strike price you pay for and the lower price if there is one. If the price ends higher, you lose the rent you paid.

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      4 months ago

      It would be hard to get that many separate entities to all start shorting a stock all at the same time. Especially on a well known entity that may have quite a bit of action.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      4 months ago

      No you should make investment decisioms purely for the fun of it.

      Also, WSB has been wanting to short reddit for literally years, so this is barely news.

    • someacnt_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      4 months ago

      Yeah but I would short just a little, considering it will have hard time going 100x. Tbh 10x would be as difficult, but gotta play safe.