If you actually look at the links, they don’t even contend with the fact that IOF helicopters targeted civilians, they just say that a particular video of an AH-64 Apache that was circulating wasn’t filmed on the 7th.
A real :smuglord: moment
Israel’s Hannibal Doctrine, coupled with that pilot testimony/audio that made the rounds back when this started should have made that abundantly clear
Then they cut up many of the vehicles pictured and buried them to make it even more obvious
That shit is driving me absolutely bonkers right now. None of them even use that particular triggering image in their fact checks either
so fully debiunked we buried the evidence and screech appeals to the propaganda apparatus anytime someone brings it up
im not even confident i know what “obvious airforce strike” should look like but the effort to cover it up raises my eyebrows
Well which is more likely, that in a few hours hundreds of cars were burned by dudes with AK47s and RPGs (that were somehow also committing all the made up sexual assault at the same time) or that hundreds of cars were blown the fuck up by helicopter gunships with 30mm high explosive auto cannons and Hellfire anti tank missiles?
Liberals dismiss occms razor at their convenience. I remember when Nord Stream 2 blew up, I pointed out that that America announced an intent to bomb it then were spotted nearby with military divers a few weeks prior to the explosion. The simplest explanation was that the US did it.
This makes liberals incredibly angry, and they insist that Putin did it despite it being counterproductive because reasons.
This will go no differently. The narrative has been established and will not be disrupted.
Also judging by the state of the roofs, every RPG was apparently fired from directly above
Link drops his glider to bullet time no scope bomb arrows at all the cars then pulls the glider back out
look i dont even know the over-under on cars exploding when on fire, i’m not gonna speak as if its obvious to me, the surrounding context and reportage is more compelling
Literally buried the cars. That one blew my mind.
And then everyone starts parroting the line about it being to respect the dead.
Like when the fuck has burying cars ever been a way to respect dead people?
Imagine how big grave plots would have to be to bury everyone and their car in cemeteries
It's antisemitism to question why they would bury evidence!Wiping away all the fingerprints, to honor the dead
why the fuck is anyone taking that Nazi clown site seriously. Fucking log off
Seriously. This is the only site that I log into and I plan on keeping it that way.
basically every
Love how reddit dialect has filtered up to state propaganda
It’s everywhere. Even here. There are some proclivities here that drive me nuts. Posting the same exact comment under everything that could possibly be relevant is one. I left reddit for many reasons, but one was having to wade through hundreds of identical “joke” comments or glib responses.
Comment begins with “Eh,” means I can safely dismiss an opinion
Ehh I’m walkin’ here
Eh idk about that
I can’t reward this behavior
Eh, have my upvote, fellow comrade.
I know it’s annoying, but i still do it :(
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Rip me
Name checks out
Trying to turn one over, but I feel more like hiding in them these days.
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Once again feeling vindicated for calling g this was going to get turned into the modern day snopes that’s basically just “correcting the record” and then depressed because once again being correct about what was about to happen because you’re capable of material analysis isn’t actually worth anything.
I wonder if you could engineer an unrelated image to have the same md5 or perceptual hash and get it to auto-debunk.
If you have access to a quantum computer you could do this easily. With current computing it’s hard.
This was a form of attack against Apple’s on-device CSAM detection that they scrapped, so it’s been possible for a while.
- Neural hash collider: https://github.com/anishathalye/neural-hash-collider
- Example collision: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issues/1
- Script to generate collisions: https://gist.github.com/unrealwill/c480371c3a4bf3abb29856c29197c0be
- Tainting the client side CSAM database: https://blog.xot.nl/2023/10/11/tainting-the-csam-client-side-scanning-database/index.html
Edit: wow I didn’t realize md5 matching a picture was that easy, looks like you can make any image look enough like that twitter-deboonked one to generate a fake match. How has no one done this yet.
Thanks for the links, it’s pretty interesting stuff I haven’t kept up with for a while.
I didn’t hear about that potential apple attack, I wonder if you could generate a collision with a pic that looks close enough to the twitter image they auto-deboonk and a pic that’s completely unrelated, got twitter to add your new similar image to the auto-deboonker, and then troll on twitter by posting the unrelated image.
That’d be similar to that apple attack you linked, but it depends on how twitter auto-deboonking works and how easy you could get them to add a similar-but-different pic to their deboonker database.
md5 They said md5
mega deeznuts five
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You’re right
I thought md5 is vulnerable to generating 2 colliding files, not to trying to generate a match to an existing file.
It’s definitely the easiest. But that’s why we stopped using it, because it’s proven we can have collision so it may be possible to generate a match on a real life file. I’m not sure about where we’re at on this in research (if there’s any)
Also I was actually not trying to make a point, just pointing on md5 as a joke
If you’re using any hash smaller than your file (not just md5), then it’s always possible to have 2 different files that match. This is just from pigeonhole principle. No matter what you use there will be collision.
md5 is just bad because it’s small so it’s easier to generate this match. It’s also a question of how easy is it to reverse engineer a match, which apparently md5 is worse for on pictures than I expected.
I assumed it was a theory that the notes were automated, but I guess it’s explicit
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Any good yt vids that explain whatever the alleged bombing is from the beginning?
It’s the parking lot of the music festival that got attacked on October 7th. It shows massive explosive damage that is obviously from air power because the Israelis panicked and started blowing up their own civilians
This effort post has a lot of links and videos related to the various incidents of Hannibal Directive on Oct 7th: https://hexbear.net/post/1609134
So this week the nazis like israel?
2/2 of those articles I clicked don’t even mention that image
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