Well, baldness also requires care. A shampoo will be fine for your head-skin. Also, moisturise. Especially important for people who tend to have dry skin like me. There aren’t many good moisturisers for men around though. (At least none which I found good so far.) So, moisturisers marketed towards women it is.
And if it smells like peach, roses and aloe vera paired with coconuts, even better. If your girlfriend/wife likes to smell herself that way, you can bet she would also like to smell your floral skin-desert.
Yes, but I think the (true) point was that male-marketed products are always either:
Arctic freshness 0°K we’ll make you feel like you’re naked on an iceberg in the middle of the North Pole
Or:
Now you smell like your grandfather! Some wood, musk, and cedar cones
Why is it so and what does it tell of our society and weird expectations? A great deal of men do NOT appreciate this approach, and sure turn to the products marketed for women.
We should either break that insanely entrenched stereotype about “masculine” scents, or better just ditch product gendering altogether.
Yay for men smelling like vanilla and strawberry yoghurt!
Old Spice has some “island” scents that smell like fruits and flowers for men. I am currently working my way through a bottle of “Fiji” smells like papaya and vanilla.
I am at a loss to think of a more man oriented brand of hygiene products than Old Spice. Maybe Axe, but do we really consider teenage boys men?
My teens (one girl one trans boy) are crazy about that Old Spice Fiji scent, and the laundry scent Suavitel Fresca Aroma Del Sol. I think the Fiji does smell a lot like the clean clothes.
Axe makes me break out something awful. Only been two periods of time I wore it, both because the lady I was with commented on it smelling nice when we were in a store, and then only wearing it on nights I was going out with her and hoping I’d recover before next time.
I have little or no allergies regarding anything else, but deodorants for some reason are prone to setting me off (my suspicion is that it’s particular fragrances used in some of them). Currently Dove Men + Care is safe for me, so I use that.
Shea Moisture products score very high in the curly girl ratings scale and you can pick them up at walgreens for not much more than old spice hair products.
it is more expensive but only like 25% more and the quality difference is huge.
What does that mean, exactly though? Will it make a man sick if he uses it? Or is it just a way for a company to appeal to a certain customer who believes men and women are too different to enjoy similar things?
If the man gets his hair really dirty, like farm dirty with diesel and moly grease and itchy chaff bits, then it means it probably doesn’t have what it takes to do the job.
My wife bought endless shampoos, I tried them for sport and none ever impressed me. Our hard water laughs at fancy shampoos and soaps.
I always told her to forget it and use my big jug of Pert. A classic that says something on the back like “Pert wasn’t designed to waste your time and money. Pert was designed to get your hair clean” but she was sure there was something wrong with it because it was only 5 bucks.
Finally one day she gave it a try and has used Pert ever since. It made her hair smooth and soft, it even washes moly grease out and it smells “fine”, men’s shampoo is the winner IMO
And now my shower is so tidy with only one jug of shampoo
But what about that makes it “men’s” shampoo, chemically? Do women never need to wash grease out of their hair?
I understand you’re point. I’m just reiterating that the formula is needlessly gendered. “Shampoo for hard water and heavy duty cleaning” just doesn’t sell in our version of socialized society I guess.
Actually come to think of it, I don’t think Pert is actually gendered. But everyone knows it’s a “man’s shampoo”, because it isn’t actively marketed as a “women’s shampoo”… Yeah, pretty stupid, isn’t it.
My regular shampoo is Malibu C Hard Water Wellness, it is not too harsh and works so well in our water. Not Pert cheap but can get it for around $30 a liter usually and that lasts me a looong time. I love that stuff. Doesn’t dry out my hair, does clean and rinses clean.
I mean that is great and obvious and all but it is completely the case that they are women’s products. They are on all the boxes, ads and testimonials. In the women’s aisle.
What a weird generalization to make. Maybe you’re referring to grocery stores, that have a small selection of beauty/health products.
My local Target here in the US (CA) was recently renovated to expand the body care section of the store, and now has two large distinct sections that obviously cater to specific genders:
The men’s section (deodorant, hair care, face wash, shaving supplies, etc.) is set apart by “wood” flooring, dark wooden display tables, and a kind of minimalist atmosphere. Several aisles away, the women’s section (hair care, makeup, face wash, nail care, etc.) is bright and colorful and chock-full of product signage.
Lol I just checked target. You’re right. I guess I never get the “men’s shampoo”, mainly because it’s low quality with a crappy “wood” fragrance. Of course women’s deodorant is a rip-off too. Better to just look up the brand you like.
What’s funny is that I’m now at the point of using bar soap as my “shampoo”, but the store currently only has heavily scented bar soap, so I do actually smell like 🍑 and 🍊.
That doesn’t work here. Natural soap, saponified fats, causes soap scum in hard water. If it puts a mineral coating on your tub, it will do the same to your hair.
In return, Women get to smell like coconuts and vanilla, while we men are relegated to scents like “burnt charcoal and 7 year old engine oil”
There’s no laws preventing you from using what you perceive as women’s hair care products.
My baldness sufficiently prevents me from using them.
There’s always butt hair.
That’s true, my butt hair could do with an occasional shampoo. Maybe a fresh style too, I’ve been wearing it for ages just parted in the middle.
I like a nice French braid in mine
There is always butt hair…
My husband is bald but like to use my nice smelling shampoo on his beard every now and again. Pamper yourself.
Well, baldness also requires care. A shampoo will be fine for your head-skin. Also, moisturise. Especially important for people who tend to have dry skin like me. There aren’t many good moisturisers for men around though. (At least none which I found good so far.) So, moisturisers marketed towards women it is.
And if it smells like peach, roses and aloe vera paired with coconuts, even better. If your girlfriend/wife likes to smell herself that way, you can bet she would also like to smell your floral skin-desert.
Yes, but I think the (true) point was that male-marketed products are always either:
Or:
Why is it so and what does it tell of our society and weird expectations? A great deal of men do NOT appreciate this approach, and sure turn to the products marketed for women.
We should either break that insanely entrenched stereotype about “masculine” scents, or better just ditch product gendering altogether.
Yay for men smelling like vanilla and strawberry yoghurt!
Reject marketing. Reject gender roles. Reject artificial constructs that only serve to oppress and control you.
Easier said than done, but seriously fuck marketing.
Indeed! Marketing in general is evil by itself
Also, as a man generally into gender role reversal, fuck gender stereotypes!
All hair is fur. Doesn’t matter which mammal it’s found on.
Old Spice has some “island” scents that smell like fruits and flowers for men. I am currently working my way through a bottle of “Fiji” smells like papaya and vanilla.
I am at a loss to think of a more man oriented brand of hygiene products than Old Spice. Maybe Axe, but do we really consider teenage boys men?
Old Spice’s “wolfthorn” scent reminds me a lot of fruit candy. loke orange flavored hubba bubba or something.
My teens (one girl one trans boy) are crazy about that Old Spice Fiji scent, and the laundry scent Suavitel Fresca Aroma Del Sol. I think the Fiji does smell a lot like the clean clothes.
Axe makes me break out something awful. Only been two periods of time I wore it, both because the lady I was with commented on it smelling nice when we were in a store, and then only wearing it on nights I was going out with her and hoping I’d recover before next time.
I have little or no allergies regarding anything else, but deodorants for some reason are prone to setting me off (my suspicion is that it’s particular fragrances used in some of them). Currently Dove Men + Care is safe for me, so I use that.
Thanks, will check out! Most of Old Spice falls under “smell like your grandpa” in my opinion :D
Axe - true, though this is an abomination and I would definitely build a restriction zone around people who use it
Easy, it’s the more expensive ones.
Shea Moisture products score very high in the curly girl ratings scale and you can pick them up at walgreens for not much more than old spice hair products.
it is more expensive but only like 25% more and the quality difference is huge.
I switched and my hair is sooooooo soft now.
Sometimes it says straight on the box “women’s shampoo” lol
What does that mean, exactly though? Will it make a man sick if he uses it? Or is it just a way for a company to appeal to a certain customer who believes men and women are too different to enjoy similar things?
Marketing, I suppose. Or just old custom from a time when gender roles were more strict. Maybe both
If the man gets his hair really dirty, like farm dirty with diesel and moly grease and itchy chaff bits, then it means it probably doesn’t have what it takes to do the job.
My wife bought endless shampoos, I tried them for sport and none ever impressed me. Our hard water laughs at fancy shampoos and soaps.
I always told her to forget it and use my big jug of Pert. A classic that says something on the back like “Pert wasn’t designed to waste your time and money. Pert was designed to get your hair clean” but she was sure there was something wrong with it because it was only 5 bucks.
Finally one day she gave it a try and has used Pert ever since. It made her hair smooth and soft, it even washes moly grease out and it smells “fine”, men’s shampoo is the winner IMO
And now my shower is so tidy with only one jug of shampoo
But what about that makes it “men’s” shampoo, chemically? Do women never need to wash grease out of their hair?
I understand you’re point. I’m just reiterating that the formula is needlessly gendered. “Shampoo for hard water and heavy duty cleaning” just doesn’t sell in our version of socialized society I guess.
Actually come to think of it, I don’t think Pert is actually gendered. But everyone knows it’s a “man’s shampoo”, because it isn’t actively marketed as a “women’s shampoo”… Yeah, pretty stupid, isn’t it.
I’ve always thought of Pert as non-gendered. In fact, that’s what my mom bought for the family in the 70’s.
I remember the green gel.
My regular shampoo is Malibu C Hard Water Wellness, it is not too harsh and works so well in our water. Not Pert cheap but can get it for around $30 a liter usually and that lasts me a looong time. I love that stuff. Doesn’t dry out my hair, does clean and rinses clean.
I mean, I do, despite being bald. But its still quite jarring how much worse products for men smell.
“products for men” are made up nonsense from companies who are trying to profit off of people’s insecurities.
We have been deeply conditioned as American consumers, but I’m sick of it! Fuck marketing. Fuck gender roles.
I mean that is great and obvious and all but it is completely the case that they are women’s products. They are on all the boxes, ads and testimonials. In the women’s aisle.
You have two separate aisles for men’s and women’s shampoo? Do you live in Saudi Arabia? In the rest of the world they’re right next to each other.
In Germany (dm), they have a separate isle for men‘s products, and „normal“ (less gendered) products everywhere else. Kinda weird.
DM is notoriously weird in how they place products to begin with :D
Good prices though!
What a weird generalization to make. Maybe you’re referring to grocery stores, that have a small selection of beauty/health products.
My local Target here in the US (CA) was recently renovated to expand the body care section of the store, and now has two large distinct sections that obviously cater to specific genders:
The men’s section (deodorant, hair care, face wash, shaving supplies, etc.) is set apart by “wood” flooring, dark wooden display tables, and a kind of minimalist atmosphere. Several aisles away, the women’s section (hair care, makeup, face wash, nail care, etc.) is bright and colorful and chock-full of product signage.
Lol I just checked target. You’re right. I guess I never get the “men’s shampoo”, mainly because it’s low quality with a crappy “wood” fragrance. Of course women’s deodorant is a rip-off too. Better to just look up the brand you like.
Yeah we have an aisle with typically male hygiene and beauty products and another with typically female products.
Very sorry that your weird world view doesnt correspond to reality.
Do you have something against 7 year old engine oil?
Anything less than 10 years didn’t have enough time to ripen.
1965 chateau de Castrol. Very good harvest, that year.
gonna smell like that anyway.
Seriously. My goals today are to change my oil and grill some chicken.
And I’m all out of of oil and chicken…
I don’t mind swapping the vehicle shop for the wood shop. I often walk in the house after a long day smelling very lightly of oak.
What’s funny is that I’m now at the point of using bar soap as my “shampoo”, but the store currently only has heavily scented bar soap, so I do actually smell like 🍑 and 🍊.
That doesn’t work here. Natural soap, saponified fats, causes soap scum in hard water. If it puts a mineral coating on your tub, it will do the same to your hair.
Yeah I just use bar soap and I’ve got fairly long hair. Works well enough as long as you’re not too aggressive with it.
I love the tar smell tbh