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    Saying that you could stand out in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody dead I did not affect your campaign should equally have been political suicide.

    Political suicide is dead.

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    On the contrary, this is actually the strategy to win the swing voters. Some of them just need to be haters and they win bigly.

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    That man is politically immortal. There is nothing he can do to “commit political suicide”.

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      He can lose, repeatedly. But that doesn’t really end Trumpism. It just mutates the brand into Republicans who can pitch themselves as “winners”.

      A big problem with Lincoln Project Republicanism is that it doesn’t refute the fundamental fascist tenants of Trumpism (the xenophobia, the white nationalist Christiandom, anti-Democratic sentiments). They just pitch Trump as on the wrong side of foreign policy (not hawkish enough on Russia or China).

      So we end up with Trump on one end and Ted Cruz on the other, as our range of conservative options.

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          Well what’s the difference?

          Same calories Same awful foam Same horrible aftertaste Same miserable aroma

          But the light version says the quiet part quietly.

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        Things have definitely changed and there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start over. The old party wasn’t great but it was at least loyal.

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          there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start ove

          There are Republicans who lost their primaries and want their seats back. But they aren’t going to throw away Reaganism to defeat Trumpism.

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            Everyone calls it Reagan, but he just did what Republicans were saying they wanted for decades already. In fact I’m not sure where the Republicans could fall back to ideologically. Ever since the Dixie Flip they’ve pretty much built their entire party around racism and religious extremism.

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    If he wins I swear I’m going to post a collage of these moronic article titles claiming gg ez a week before elections.

    Feels 1:1 like 2016.

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      The headline was stupid and it doesn’t match the article. The article was not nearly as categorical, And said that the points in the speech are red meat for his base but likely to turn off undecided voters

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    It wasn’t the rape charges, or saying he wants to fuck his daughter, or saying immigrants are eating pets, or that people are getting abortions at 9 months, or trying to build that stupid fucking wall, or banning Muslims, or botching covid, or the insurrection, or calling on proud boys, or having meeting with Putin, or having meetings with Netanyahu, or…

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      I will continue to say, and I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who opposes this shitstain, the fact that he was President once and is very likely to be President again speaks volumes on who the American people are and it’s not nice.

      A large chunk of you think this man is a good representation of you on the world stage. Someone who is weak, overweight, obnoxious, loud, a bully, sexist, racist, I can go on. This is who a large chunk of Americans feel best represents them.

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        Of course. I have always found it astonishing that anyone can behold DT and think he should be in charge of the country. Of course, same for Limbaugh or all the people in Fox who act like disingenuous assholes nonstop.

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      …grab 'em by the pussy, or vets are suckers and losers, or his love letters with Kim, or his generals not being loyal like hitler’s, or shoving light up the asses of covid victims, or bleach, or TAKING A SHARPIE TO A HURRICANE MAP, or never releasing his financial records, or his fucking health records, or…

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        …saying it doesn’t cost $60000 to bury a ‘fucking Mexican’, or making multiple political spectacles at Arlington National Cemetery, or praising North Korea, or locker room talk, or…

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          … failing to pass a cognitive test, or not being able to answer what the nuclear triad is while he was a sitting president, or being impeached twice, or talking to boy scouts about sexy yacht parties, or using the US armed forces against US citizens, or…

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    The Madison Square Garden rally, operatic in its repulsive bigotry, will almost certainly alienate more voters who might have voted for Trump.

    Will it really? Is there someone out there who didn’t know until this event that he was a bigot and an awful person and is now going to change their mind?

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      You know what’s crazy? That answer is almost certainly yes.

      I live in a red area and more and more people are starting to see some cracks

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        As great as that is to hear, I have to wonder under what rock those people have been living up to now.

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          Honestly, I kind of get it.

          I’m very attuned to keeping up with what is happening in the world, at least at a base level. The number of people I’ve met who just dont do that is staggering. The other day I ran into someone who didn’t know what happened on J6. Maybe they were playing dumb, but I didn’t think so.

          The reason i kinda get it is because this shit is depressing. I would love to be able to just tune out everything political related and only see feeds relating to my hobbies and just be totally ignorant of how fucked everything is. I guess some people saw that opportunity and took it.

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            It’s fatigue. If there were a turd-based fireworks show outside your house every night, eventually you just have to ignore it.

            At first, exploding turds, I kinda want to see that. Eventually everything is covered in shit. That’s sort of a problem. A few folks try to clean it up, but it’s A LOT of shit. Your house is covered in shit. Your car is covered in shit. You go to the car wash and things improve… But your car is covered in shit again pretty quickly, so that felt like a waste.

            Then someone asks you about that one time when a bunch of people broke into a building and let off shit fireworks everywhere. Sure that was new, but the nightly turd extravaganza still went off just the same. Plus the turd fireworks are always being set off in new and unusual places. I can’t be expected to remember them all.

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            Were they 5 years old or recently immigrated or something? Maybe it’s because of proximity but I’m pretty sure even in Canada everyone has heard about it!

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                Yep. I’ve seen folks avoid politics like I avoid football. They excuse themselves when someone starts talking about it, they change the channel if something about it comes on, and they just don’t go to places on the internet where it’s discussed.

                I wasn’t ever that bad, but I used to not go out of my way to look at politics and it was pretty easy to avoid. I was much happier as well. But it’s important so I wade through it.

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        I live in a Southern city. I shop in nice stores that are advertised in Garden & Gun.

        They are selling Reagan Bush ‘80 and Reagan Bush ‘84 swag.

        That is a dog whistle to say “I’m not down with Trump, but it’s not because I’m not conservative”.

        There are serious cracks.

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        In my neighborhood, I’ve seen some houses take down their Trump signs. Dunno if it means anything, but I don’t think I had ever seen that before.

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        I live in a red state and I saw a jacked up truck flying a full size giant Kamala Harris flag the other day, my jaw dropped

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        Harris HQ did a lot of things right and Trump HQ got locked in either doubling down and becoming more pronounced fascist (like here) therefore risking moderate republican votes or becoming too boring and letting people see through their incompetence and Trump’s senility when they aren’t caught up blind from constant MAGAtation.

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        It’s always so interesting (or heartbreakingly depressing) for me to hear this. I have seen that to some extent where I live, although very tepidly. However, when I go visit friends and family in much more red areas I feel like I’m going into bizarro world. People are doubling and tripling down. It’s like a weird arms race or something between trump and his sycophants as they desperately try to keep up with each other in terms of bigotry and just overall insanity and/or stupidity. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that, in those areas, they ate this stuff up and asked for seconds.

        It would make me incredibly happy if this was some sort of breaking point and it actually did open some eyes but having been there and seen the countless gigantic trump/Vance flags hanging from the bed of outrageously lifted pickups, I just don’t see it.

    • Yeah, the “political suicide” bit is immediately questionable. The fact that this race is even close has destroyed any remaining shreds of faith in my fellow Americans.

      Trump could go up in stage and rant about black people, using the hard-R; he could repeat the sexist comments he’s already famous for; he could probably even criticize Christians - none of it would move the needle. People voting for him aren’t doing so because they think he’s a great person; they’re doing it because they hate liberals.

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        I think they are voting for him because of the things they believe he is or stands for. Let’s assume some people cherish kindness, then these people believe he is kind even if he’s obviously not. They want to believe.

        They are analogously not voting for Harris out of what they believe she stands for: destroying their values, installing communism, surrendering to the Soviet Union, all on day one. Because they want to believe.

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      8 years later, still riding that click-generating wave of “can you believe how racist this guy is?!”

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      Making people aware might give more of a push to people who otherwise wouldn’t vote. It isn’t about changing the minds of maga shits.

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      The first half of this skit will explain , like it is which multi-millionaire who does not respect you do you choose? The one lying that it is all fair, or the crybaby who says its not. Even with a Billion dollars Harris does not feel safe, and Trump has ro go so see Elon (who needs to be culled already). In all this voting third party is the crazy choice because?

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        Holy nonsense false equivalence, Batman. Harris’s net worth (with her husband), is about $8 million, much of which comes from book sales, pensions, and the value of her home. I’ll take the millionaire who earned her assets via public service, investment, and work over the supposed billionaire who earned his assets via loans from daddy, grift, fraud, lies, and a history of refusal to pay bills.

        In all this voting third party is the crazy choice because?

        Because you started with a ridiculous lie to justify it, maybe? Or, alternatively, because it’s stupid and self-defeating.

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          And the average american is a multi-millionaire? Like holy batman thats alot of words to say she can not relate to regular ppl. As in my Chapelle clip, one candidate embraces it, the other denies it. Guess who looks like an untrustworthy liar.

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              Ladies and gentleman, this is called a pivot, because I made an accusation and somehow @BlackBeard has something entirely different to take attention and ignore what I said.

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            The average net worth of a single person in their 60s (kamala’s age) is about 1.5 million.

            So take 8 million for Kamala and husband and 3 million for an average couple in the same age group.

            I think that’s significantly closer than any of the gop or third party candidates.

            Besides, it’s not like Kamala is trying to make it a secret (unlike trump, who consistently refuses to release documents related to wealth and assets)

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        The one lying that it is all fair, or the crybaby who says its not.

        Yep, that’s the only difference between the two candidates. You nailed it!

        (This is sarcasm. You’re an idiot.)

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    I’ve lost count of how many “political suicides” Trump has allegedly gone through since 2015… Yet somehow, here he still is…

    My faith in humanity has been severely diminished by the fact his candidacy keeps surviving what in a sane world would be disqualifying events/revelations.

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    The Daily Beast is essentially Fox News for democrats, and I say this as a democrat. I wouldn’t take much of what they say seriously. Especially their sensationalist headlines.

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    Oh come on “journalists”, please stop with this “end of the Republican party” bullshit.

    None of this will kill the white supremacist party because forty percent of America is still identifying as white supremacist and another ten percent literally can’t tell the difference between someone quoting Hitler and someone Hitler was a genocidal asshole that shouldn’t be looked up to and those morons vote in Pennsylvania.

    The Republican party is perfectly fine after this yet another time example of Republicans being Nazi sympathizers holding a major public really where they proudly proclaim their White Nationalist opinions and agenda.

    I think the only hope for getting rid of this bullshit strain of conservatism here and across the world is that they hold the same beliefs in the next global pandemic.

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      My thoughts exactly. Every election cycle, there are a slew of “Republican voters won’t be able to stomach THIS latest revelation!” articles. Then the Republicans dhed less than a rounding error of their voter base while picking up a nearly equal amount of votes from neo-Nazis or the like.

      The party of immoral hypocrisy, “shockingly”, doesn’t care about the morality of their candidate so long as they “hurt the right people”.

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    Donald Trump has committed like, a couple dozen political suicides and stood back up, which is fucking alarming.

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      It helps him drastically that his supporters do not consider the same things that the media does as “political suicide”. They instead see it as yet more reasons to support him, because he is everything they want to be: rich, powerful bastards with the willingness and shamelessness to be the most terrible version of themselves as possible. All because they hate poor people and minorities more than the rich fucks who are ACTUALLY fucking them over.

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    Lol, mocking a disabled reporter, bragging about sexual assault, praising Hitler and trying to overturn an election wasn’t political suicide, stop trying to predict last straws for his career, there is no bottom.

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    I caught the tail end of the story on NPR about how he apologized for one of the jokes and I just assumed it was one of the Nazi Rally jokes and was like “wow the nazi thing is finally getting some traction” but no it was the Puerto Rico thing.

    I cannot express how ready I am for this shit to go away.

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    Naïve article overall. Writers should know better than to prognosticate on what could actually hurt Trump’s chances. But this is a fantastic line:

    That was clear early on when Tony Hinchcliffe, a man invited by Trump to give one of the introductory speeches—who in true MAGA fashion alleged without providing a shred of evidence that he was a comedian