I know that it’s Chinese and it translates roughly as “white/Western left.” Looking it up on the Chinese wiki, Google translate gives me… well, this:

It is used to describe people who support policies such as the abolition of the death penalty , [ 3 ] animal protection , environmental protection , body equality , skin equality , LGBT , feminism , vegetarianism , marijuana decriminalization , euthanasia , abortion and immigration , that is, people with cultural leftist ideas in the European and American world.

This paints baizuo as something akin to American conservative terms like “woke” or “SJW.” On the other hand, I’ve seen baizuo on Hexbear a few times, but in those contexts it seemed to mean something closer to “succdem” or “Western chauvinist” rather than the definition above. Obviously, a term used to insult feminists, LGBT people, and environmentalists would be incredibly out of place on this site, hence why I’m asking about it rather than taking a machine-translated Wiki article at face value.

  • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    leftist circles on Chinese internet. And when I say Chinese leftists, a large portion of them are the nationalistic, anti-LGBT people who really hate American and Western imperialism

    So, like, nazbol except they’re most of the Chinese left? Is that what you’re saying?

    • xiaohongshu [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      58 minutes ago

      Not really, nationalism is hard coded into the anti-colonial left. Mao, Fidel, Ho etc. were all nationalists and patriots.

      Anti-LGBT is because they see LGBT movement as another arm of Western cultural imperialism used to impose national and cultural oppression onto the countries being colonized (with the goal of forcing countries to open up their markets to foreign capital, through direct influence on their societal values).

      This is why the anti-imperialist left in the Global South is usually very protective about their traditional cultures and values from being eroded by imported Western NGOs. If there is ever going to be progress for LGBT rights, it will have to come from within (like Cuba, for example).

      What I am saying is that the more anti-imperialist/anti-US a person is, the more they are likely to exhibit these traits, which at times borders on being reactionary. It’s a real mess.

      • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        48 minutes ago

        The anti-imperialist left in the Global south being historically anti-LGBT because they see it as an arm of western oppression is a wild statement

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      3 hours ago

      I don’t think it’s proper to dilute the usage of nazbol in the same manner that fascist has been as a label for everything that has reactionary and/or chauvinistic characteristics.