Islamist US proxies have captured Damascus. Bashar’s government has fallen. Is it joever for the Axis of Resistence?
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It is a sad day for the resistance in the Middle East. A US proxy has won yet again and their terrorist groups will destroy another country.
Feels like 1991 all over again. World historical tragedy occurring before our eyes. Please pay your respects to the martyrs who held out this long against Daesh, god have mercy on Syria
I don’t know about all of you but to me, seeing the decades-ruling Syrian government fall is like an “End of History” for the Middle East. This is a goodbye to the last remnant of Pan-Arabism, of Arab Socialism, of Arab Secularism, of Arab Anti-imperialism. It was the last remaining Arab anti-imperialist state in the Levant. This is a huge blow to the Axis of Resistance and Iran, billions of dollars and decades of foreign policy put to waste.
yes, it’s the dawn of a new age of total barbarity. The age of greater israel and the turkish empires. Of ethnostates and salafism and zionism.
Can’t wait for the liberals and western leftists to ignore the caste system that’s gonna be implemented with a very specific type of Sunni Muslim on top. May be they can send sell construction slaves to the zios and gulf states. Gonna need a ton of bodies to build neom
every capitalist country has a caste system
100%
this is really fucking bad
A major blow to the Axis of Resistance. Zionist forces are now advancing in Syria.
Israel will colonize and settle the south, Turkey will begin restoring the Ottoman empire in the north, and the US will continue occupying the east for oil, but at least people in Syria are now free to go around destroying Christmas trees. (I despise Christmas but still.)
Is this it? After all that’s been done, after all those years of killing terrorists? After they were at the brink of defeat, just because Russia decided to play buddy buddy with fucking Turkey with some agreements and thus stopping the fighting when they could have been defeated for good years ago? Bashar is alive and well unlike Gaddafi so he can return eventually.
This will be worse than the peak days of ISIS, various terrorist groups will be literally killing each other and oppressing millions of people, Middle East is in the worst situation imaginable, next thing that will probably happen is that war will break out and Iran will annihilate zionist entity, but until then, it’s hell for Middle East.
There’s so much disappointment… the SAA’s unwillingness to fight, Syria’s allies standing on the sidelines, no one even trying to stop the terrorists. Syria will be like Afghanistan but worse at this rate.
after all those years of killing terrorists?
so, here’s the thing about killing terrorists
You can kill lots of em but the cause of which that makes them, keeps them spawning, like a video game
Edit: downvoter, the f you want?
If terrorists keep on appearing without a centralized command nor a reliable resource, then the problem is democratic support to the “terrorists”, the social conditions, economy, government corruption, or government mismanagement.
Amen… And I suppose if it ain’t solved, “Pax” Amerikkkana will take advantage of it
How did this happen so suddenly? Did the Syrian army just desert their posts or they didn’t have equipment or what?
people overestimate the resources the axis of resistance has
Sure but I’d expect them to put up a fight, this almost looks like it was prearranged.
They did put up a fight. They’ve been depleted over a 10+ year long civil war. War fatigue set in long ago, and supplies and fresh recruits started drying up a long long time ago.
Although the terrorists had a lot of help, the way the Syrian army crumbled is very suspicious. Or maybe they just were unprepared.
I felt this was going to happen yesterday with all that was going on. I didn’t think it would happen this fast.
Guess no more Assad memes though as looks like in the end he was the one who had to go.
This shows how persistent the US can be though. People spent years joking about them failing to remove him and they just kept on plotting and doing their thing and sure enough Russia didn’t want to expend their own treasury or people on fighting a war that is after all not along their borders or neighborhood. Because unlike the US they had no ambitions for strategic defeat.
However the US did. And the US will see this as a strategic defeat for Russia and press the advantage. These terrorists were assisted by, trained by and with Ukrainian fascist intelligence. They are going to turn Syria into a hub for training their pawns, for spreading extremism and destabilization across the region. As a way to blunt the belt and road, to cut it off from Africa. And these people will be taken further afield, they’ll pop up in Africa to do US work against the AES Sahel states, they’ll pop up in eastern Europe or Latin America or Asia and will be a continuing problem as they are hardened, experienced, trained fanatics and they are going to cause some trouble for all the multi-polar forces. Just as the US intended.
This is why the US should not be counted out until they’re actually out. Everyone crowing about the US having egg on its face, taking an L in Ukraine and the whole world seeing the genocide in Palestine and then they just pull out this huge win. Turns out the material on the ground situation is what they’ve actually won while we’ve won some feel good points and some PR which does little.
I agree the zionists will annex part of Syria for greater “israel” do some war crimes and oppression there, try and drive people out. They and the western pawns in Syria could also turn their attention to Lebanon and punishing or ruining Hezbollah given the zionists already decapitated the leadership there.
It’s like the 20th century. Things seemed to be going alright. Revolutions were popping off, there seemed to be a fervor with the original post-colonial movement for change and then in came the big bad USA with coups, color revolutions, dictators, extremist groups, etc, etc. They’re playing the same playbook and I’m sorry to say I think outside of some of the core countries of BRICS+ such as China, Russia, DPRK, Vietnam most of their partners are fragile enough to be vulnerable to being destroyed by these kinds of overt tactics. When the dollar hegemony and economic coercion aren’t enough alone it shows the US is not only willing but able to pull out the same kind of barbarity and intelligence-driven subterfuge to incapacitate and destroy enemies.
This is a major shift of the tides. If the west manages to pull off sending NATO troops into Ukraine and Putin blinks and accepts an armistice then I think they have the momentum again to stop or severely slow China, to stop or severely slow BRICS, to stop or severely slow the multi-polar world and buy themselves decades of life. Let us hope then Putin does not blink, that the west is inflicted in fact with a strategic loss in Ukraine. Though even that’s not the end of the story. The west will as we’ve seen here try again for another color revolution in Ukraine in 5 years, 10 years. They will take their hardened Ukrainian Nazis and use them as their agents to destabilize key places, to kill people, to do all their dirty work they’ve somewhat backed off on since the end of history and their attempt to paint themselves as better than they ever were.
Even if Russia wins in Ukraine, they get all their objectives, the west is going to use Syria and those they evac from Ukraine to continue setting fires around Russia and also China, in Georgia, in Moldova, in some of the other central Asian republics perhaps.
And as we’ve seen the west profits immensely from the fact still no one wants to fuck with them. Iran doesn’t, they’re conserving their strength afraid they’re next and perhaps simply not having the logistics to actually wield strength in Syria with the zionist regime there and the US and its regional pawns blocking them. Even Russia still acts this way, still thinks there is a way to be reasonable with these people. So who is there left? No USSR. Russia isn’t that interventionist and even if they were they’re bogged down in Ukraine and could be for years. China is out due to their stances. Iran feels pinned down. The US has retaken west Asia and with it probably destroyed China’s hopes for a belt and road to Africa actually succeeding this decade.
This is in other words a very bad day for the Syrian people, for the Palestinian people, for the multi-polar order, for China, for Russia, for Iran.
This is why the US should not be counted out until they’re actually out. Everyone crowing about the US having egg on its face, taking an L in Ukraine and the whole world seeing the genocide in Palestine and then they just pull out this huge win. Turns out the material on the ground situation is what they’ve actually won while we’ve won some feel good points and some PR which does little.
This just comes across to me like cynicism under the guise of a political analysis backed up by exercising vision as 2020 in hindsight.
Is this a loss for the cause and should be acknowledged as such (as opposed to hiding from reality)? Yes. Is it really worth dooming about the trajectory of the next decades? No. A loss is something to learn from and adjust because of. The world is a lot bigger and more complicated than one country, and we do no favors trying to oversimplify the trajectory of things, especially in a way that can undermine hope and morale. People need to know what they’re contending with and they need to not be complacent about it - on that, I can understand the need for not being overconfident. But there is another side to that, where a person can go so far in the other direction, they’re underestimating their own capability and in doing so, undermining their own efforts because they give up before they even try. And I know from personal experience: me and anxiety know each other well, and one of the things anxiety can cause is avoidance due to letting fear control.
Agreed, this is a big loss. The west will certainly try to wring every ounce they can out of this victory. But how far they succeed depends on how others respond and the balance of forces between them. And in the medium and long term, the trends are still on our side. Not that that’s any solace to the people currently living through these nightmares.
There is a lot of doomerism in this comment section – understandably so, because this is a tragedy for the Syrian people and a setback for global anti-imperialism. But we need to be careful of falling into the trap of thinking the United States is omnipotent, or some kind of Manichean, unstoppable power of absolute metaphysical evil.
My read is this. Nearly every regime change operation mounted by the United States over the past five-eight years has been an embarrassing failure; this from the country that was once able to topple governments in the global south (and in the north as well) almost at will. Currently the US is led by one of the most incompetent administrations in recent history. If you doubt this, consider the way Biden’s foreign policy undermined the dollar (foundation of US global supremacy), and undid the result Kissinger and Brezinski spent decades trying to bring about, namely driving a wedge between Russia and China. These developments were, it is true, a long time in the making, but Biden greatly accelerated them. I ask then: is it credible that the United States, at this point in time, was able on its own to mount a regime-change operation as impressively effective as the one we just saw in Syria? It seems to me that the speed with which the Syrian government fell rather points to serious internal problems; understandable in a nation which has been at war for over a decade, but problems none the less. In other words, this was likely not a stable government – there was interior rot we didn’t know about; and the US state department may be just as surprised as we that their operation worked.
The best-case scenario for Syria at this point is, of course, an Evo Morales situation where the Assad government comes back from exile. I do not think that is likely. This a tragedy for Syrians, beyond many people’s ability to comprehend. But it does not necessarily change the overall trajectory of world history.
I really like this analysis. I won’t pretend it doesn’t make me feel some type of way, this situation. Or that it isn’t a substantial setback. But this is a good frame to look at it in.
China definitely isn’t sitting this out, the government has admitted that when the time comes in the coming years and decades, they will unleash retribution on the U.S. and their compradors when the situation is ripe.
Is there a resource/speech where I can see this? Not doubting you, just want it for hope reasons lol.
I don’t have any off the topic of my mind, I apologize. It’s in various articles I read years ago from Xinhua and stuff
My country’s news is reporting about a prison that’s being caputred at which the prisoners are being released. Makes me thing about the (I think) Czech president who released prisoners from a gulag only to find out they were filled with, you know, a lot of criminals lol.
Also, Abu ghraib was a former torture prison for Saddam. Wouldn’t be surprised if all those prisons are filled up again but by the US allies.
Khrushchev moment
A bleak day. This is two major Hamas allies taken out of the fight in less than a month. It’s likely that Hamas will be looking for a ceasefire soon, especially if more blows like this happen.
Hamas has been looking for a ceasefire for a while, just the permanent and enforceable kind which Isn’treal does not want.
This was an interesting take on the whole thing, and I think it’s quite plausible. He basically argues that the west might be intentionally drawn into a trap in Syria. Incidentally, there is a RAND paper that warns against this exact scenario. It basically argues that putting Syria under stress is beneficial to the US, but there is a risk of over commitment.
Russia and Iran aren’t stupid, and they likely saw that the west was going to flare up the conflict in Syria again. One option was to pour resources into Syria to fight off the jihadists. This would be long and protracted quagmire. The other options was simply to withdraw and let them take it. These groups all hate each other, and they’re not a cohesive fighting force. They’re already starting to fight each other just days after taking over, and it’s only going to get worse.
The west wants to have a compliant regime in Syria and that requires using coercive methods that will inevitably breed resentment from these groups. This is basically what happened in both Iraq and Afghanistan where the insurgents ultimately turned on their masters.
On top of all that, Israel is now invading Syria in a big way, and they’re unlikely to withdraw. It’s only a matter of time till they start getting attacked, and this will force the west to keep pouring resources to prop them up. In effect, this flips the script on Syria. Instead of Russia and Iran being on the hook propping it up while the west can keep destabilizing it relatively cheaply. It is now the west that’s stuck with a very volatile situation.
I think this is a reasonable take. And while I’m not going to pretend like this situation doesn’t present a problem for the Iran-Hezbollah supply line, I think that a fractured Syria probably means those supply lines can still be maintained. The Zionist entity will probably try and control as much of the Syria/Lebanon border as possible, but I think that will only serve to align more domestic Syrian forces against them.
Exactly, and this also draws Israel out where they’re much more vulnerable. The situation was pretty stable for Israel before because there was absolutely no chance that anybody would try a direct invasion. However, now they’re stuck in a three front conflict with Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria.
Yeah, it does bring IOF into the open where they can have many “difficult security incidents”
Syria could become Israel’s Afghanistan.
I have to finish the video but God, I hope so. Can you imagine the IOF cowards engaging in that kind of ground warfare? I know i shouldn’t analyze from an angle of vengeance but the IOF deserve the worst things to happen to them.
Indeed
This is a plausible best case scenario. It’s just a question of time how long it takes for the west to bleed itself to death.
This would be in line with the general strategic analysis of how to defeat empires. I hope it’s the case
It seems pretty heartless if true. ISIS has already started mass executions.
It is, but Russia is already at war and Iran is likely to be attacked next. Committing to a war in Syria could have disastrous consequences for both.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
And I’m still over here hoping things get turned around. Syria hosts Russia’s only port in the Mediterranean, as well as airfields, allowing Russia to project power into the Middle East and Africa. So far there have been no reports of Russia abandoning its bases (although some ships reportedly left).The smart move for SAA would have been to retreat to a defensible position and then launch an insurgency against HTS. HTS is deemed a terrorist organisation and they do not enjoy the broad popular support like the Taliban do in Afghanistan, so they do not have the means for a protracted war or sustained conflict, meanwhile Russia can continue supplying SAA through the ports/airfields.This would force the US/West to openly give support to people they have labeled terrorists, which would be a lose-lose for the US.Putin said Russia isn’t going to help SAA if they’re not willing to fight for their country. Maybe I’m being naive, but I’m wondering if its a ploy to make SAA appear weak, Sun Tzu and all that.Assad’s family left weeks ago, so this wasn’t such a surprise. Also, from what I’ve seen/read, the SAA didn’t abandon equipment like the Afghan Army did when Taliban advanced. The SAA seems to have retreated with their vehicles, there is no sign of a rout. Remember, when Ukraine started pushing hard and fast on Kherson and Kharkov the Russians also abandoned their positions and retreated, giving up a lot of territory; Western media said it was over for Russia then.The thought of Assad/Syria falling saddens me, but I’m not willing to give into doomerism yet.Apparently it’s over. Fucking sucks.
Still not giving into doomerisms though. HTS is a gang of thugs whose only “success” so far, that the Western media has been able to dig up, was them running Idlib “sort of, kind of okay” (and probably with Turkey’s help) while recognising that they led a terror campaign against Kurds, Shia Muslims and anyone who opposed them. I don’t think the people of Syria will accept HTS so easily. I could be wrong (again), but it gives me some hope that the HTS rule might be very short-lived.
. Also, from what I’ve seen/read, the SAA didn’t abandon equipment like the Afghan Army did when Taliban advanced.
That’s incorrect, the SAA did abandon a ton of equipment, I think over 200 SAA tanks, including over 60 T-72s and 6 T-90s, were captured by various rebel factions undamaged. Over 900 pieces of equipment abandoned in total.
I think over 200 SAA tanks, including over 60 T-72s and 6 T-90s, were captured by various rebel factions undamaged. Over 900 pieces of equipment abandoned in total.
Fuck. But will it be enough to hold a country embroiled in civil war, especially one as large as Syria?
The smart move for SAA would have been to retreat to a defensible position and then launch an insurgency against HTS. HTS is deemed a terrorist organisation and they do not enjoy the broad popular support like the Taliban do in Afghanistan, so they do not have the means for a protracted war or sustained conflict, meanwhile Russia can continue supplying SAA through the ports/airfields.
Wasn’t just HTS, they were being attacked from rebels in 2 other directions, from the South and Southeast. The rebels in the south had simliarly negotiated with Assad, but just a couple days ago started their offensive towards Damascus. Meanwhile cities which Assad held for years in the last civil war fell in days to HTS.
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6428801
The SAA didn’t abandon equipment like the Afghan Army did when Taliban advanced. The SAA seems to have retreated with their vehicles, there is no sign of a rout.
Some of it was salvaged by crossing into the Iraq border, but I’ve seen reports that it was also abandoned. https://x.com/adam7867863/status/1864306554314342850 https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1865594048284680445
Edit:
It’s official, Assad resigns. - Russian Foreign Ministry
Well, I guess that’s it then.
Assad resigns. - Russian Foreign Ministry
Welp, I guess this is it, after half a century of continuous pillaging, slaughtering, and raping of the Middle East both directly and indirectly, I guess the Empire truly wins this time.
