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    We can’t sell corn to India. We can’t sell rice to Asia.

    This part is hilariously stupid because there isn’t a block of those exports. It’s a block on genetically modified foods. These countries have a lot of common sense policies concerning the sale of GMOs because they do not want to get stuck in the monoculture death spiral that the US agricultural sector is stuck in.

    Why in the world do we let these people sell their cars? 94% of cars in Japan are made in Japan.

    This is another stupid one. The Japanese don’t like idiotically massive cars. Which is 90% of what American carmakers sell.

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      I love how GMO foods pose one of the greatest dangers to our species’ continued well-being and survival, but not in way because of the genetic modification, but because of the ability for corporations to patent life itself and control who gets to grow it or not.

      Meanwhile, you ask most average grocery shoppers if they would eat GMO vegetables and they will shriek in horror like it’s going to make them grow dicks out of their elbows.

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      I lived in Japan for several years and wholeheartedly second this. I had a later model Nissan Skyline that was roughly the size of a Camry and that thing was too big for the cities.

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      It’s hardly new. The United States have always been like that one popular kid in an elementary school. If you act the way he wants, he can be nice to you and your on his team. Take one step in a different direction and they’ll start badmouthing you, preferably behind your back.

      They’ve been doing this to Russia and China for decades. As long as they have the stage, they can create any narrative they want and the audience will most likely adopt the opinion and start saying the same things.

      The thing about propaganda is that, if it fits in your frame or reference, you’ll be more likely to accept it. If it doesn’t fit, like when it is about you, suddenly you’ll realize that this is something they have been doing about others all along and that it doesn’t break any patterns, apart from the recognition patterns of the receiver.

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        It is not about the behaviour, it is about the language. Back then even though they were bullies, they did at least use adult diplomatic language. It is about the brainrot of Trumps sycophants copying his bizarre childish way of talking.

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          Sadly that kind of language apparently resonates with voters more than intelligent speech. It’s happening all across Europe as well. As someone from the Netherlands, I had a bit of a laugh when the right wing populists found out that governing is not at all as simple as they make it out to be. It’s the embodiment of ‘fuck around and find out’.

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          The majority of the US reads below a 6th grade level. They’re talking to those people, because those are the dumb ones that put them in power.

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          This is how the fascists evangelize to the morons, the lower educated.

          See, when they say stuff like “our beef is beautiful, and theirs is weak, they’re jealous” or “these tariffs might be the manliest thing, they’re going to being us back from woke and give more testosterone” they’re not talking to you.

          I mean, they know you’re gonna hear them but they know you’re smart enough to know what they’re doing.

          What they’re really doing is rilling up all the dumb, uneducated masses that voted them in. They’re filling the airwaves with buzzwords, and their fucking sleeper zombies awaken from their WWE stupor, they all turn down their sweat lodge manosphere podcasts and go “yesss daddy make us more stronger omg trump greatest ever we’re gonna dunk on those nerds”

          They think this will scare you and intimidate you not because of their words directly, but because you understand the effects of what they’re really doing. You know, because of the implication.

          Of course it’s fucking stupid, but the problem is they will actually throw a tantrum when you tell them to fuck off and that’s when fascism gets ugly. God help us all.

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      It is simple sadly. An infant is running the country. They want to make sure he can understand what they’re saying publicly without it having to go through a translator. Note the excessive use of the word beautiful for instance.

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    “They hate our beef because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.”

    Logic’s not so strong with this one, eh?

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    Every American thing I’ve tasted has been absolutely vile compared to even the cheapest things in Europe. I really feel bad for US citizens who have lived their whole lives with shit like that.

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        The wild thing is that we do have access to it here, there are small farms growing quality produce and heirloom varieties not available in Europe. But that’s not what gets sold in supermarkets in population centers. The problem is in the middlemen and marketing, all unregulated for profit from crap.

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      Our food is garbage. It’s all engineered to be fast growing, so it has no time to develop flavor and take up natural nutrients. The result is flavorless, empty food.

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        Man, you’d think itd be cheap, with the quantity over quality game were running

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          The good news is, for us prepper types, is that proteins are looking to have a good, if short, crash in prices in the coming weeks or couple months as export orders dry up. They’ll drop just to break even on the immediate costs, then go back up again as farms scale back their operations to accommodate the decreased demand, raising costs back up again, except at that point, it’ll likely be higher as there’s no real “buffer” of producing more for exports and there’s an overall smaller count of source animals.

          Now’s a good time to get a chest freezer (or a second one) and get it ready to stock up.

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          You are for getting about the corporate greed aspect of it. It will never be cheap if they think they can charge more for it.

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    From “they hate us for our freedom” to “they hate us for our beef”.
    And I believed the Bush era was rock bottom.

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    America won’t buy our corn and guns!

    Why won’t America buy our corn and guns?

    Oh, because they make their own and they’re fucking thousands of miles away.

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      what’s the worst that can happen to chicken in a couple thousand miles from a country of origin with no regulations

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        You don’t want 10-day aged chicken?
        Or maybe you want 10-day aged chicken that has been processed in a way that the 10 days of aging doesn’t change the chicken - instead of usual aging processes that enhance meats (well, red meats)

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      They do buy our guns - they go crazy for ČZ pistols (made in a little shithole country called Czech Republic)

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        in my experience from a decade ago Czechia was a delightful place to visit and the people were very kind and helpful.

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        In fairness they probably don’t actually know that. They’re obsessed with AKs for example but most Americans probably don’t know where they’re from.

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    Food from the USA is not up to European standards. It’s that simple.

    Just look at how long it took to ban Red Dye #3. Banned almost completely in Europe in 1994, while in the US it’s legal until 2027.

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        That seems unlikely. Demand for these things tends to taper off. It’s not like the products using this dye immediately had their formula changed when the law passed. Instead, production of the dye will slow down as those products get a new formula, and they’ll continue to use old stock until it’s depleted.

        Besides, the article points to other likely sources of pollution.

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          I’m confused, is that how a ban works? Companies are allowed to continue to use it from massive stockpiles as long as some day in the future they stop? It sounds way too easy to game…

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            Under US law, yeah typically. There were a number of companies that hoarded lead paint in 1978 for exactly that reason, and it was perfectly legal. Similar story for asbestos. What sucks is afterwards, there’s no clear line to know if someone might have the banned substance. I also have no idea if this is the case for this particular law.

            But regardless, red dye 3 isn’t banned until 2027 for food, and 2028 for drugs. These will all be reformulated by that date, but for now production continues unabated.

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      Don’t forget high fructose corn syrup, which is still legal in the US, despite having a conspiracy theorist who hates it in charge of the Department of Health and who could get that ball rolling with a word.

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        Corn subsidies effectively bankroll a number of (Solid Red) US states. That shit’s big business, with big lobbyist payrolls, with big lawyers behind them.

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    “…because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.”

    My brother in christ, what the fluffer nutter cyberfuck are you talking about?!?

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    Pffff haha Hahaha haha ha…

    Oh wait, he’s serious.

    HAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA HAHA!!

    America has the food standards of a third world country. That place literally allows cancer giving chemicals in their food simply because people aren’t dying fast enough from them.

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      The US is several third-world countries in a trenchcoat, supported by a few first-world countries within it so it doesn’t collapse, cosplaying as a single first-world country.

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      “What do you mean this chicken is rotting??”

      pours bleach everywhere

      “What did I tell you, see? Zero bacteria!”

      Please keep their foodstuffs away… 🤢

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      The thing that gets me about the Trump Admin is how all his spokesgremlins sound like they stepped off a Middle School playground. We’ve gone from “Newspapers are written at a 6th grade reading level” to “Public policy is implemented by 6th graders who just discovered what a bully is”.

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      Honestly asking, what reaction do you think he is looking for?

      I can understand (and believe) these assholes are all evil and greedy at a cartoon villain level, but I simply cannot understand what is the goal here. All I see is stupidity running rampant

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    I like when they talk like toddlers, it’s clear as day they are distracting the topic at hand, much like their IQ

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        Antibiotics are allowed and, unfortunately, used plenty in the EU. Growth hormones on the other hand are banned. As far as I know, those are standard in the US, so farmers can’t simply export surplus production.

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          That’s normally absolutely not allowed in the EU, and has been forbidden Union-wide since january 22. They can only be used as a treatment when an animal has a specific disease.

          Doubtless some people cheat, but that’s another problem.

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            Wow you’re right! I thought it was still normal to pump all animals full of antibiotics as a preventative measure. Thanks for the correction!

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              I think a lot of countries had stopped before then (although it still lasted way too long), but it’s good that there’s a global ban for the outliers).
              Ideally, whatever we import should follow the same production constraints. But I’m not sure if that’s the case.

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    I kinda like that he is doing this because while this won’t reach a large number of MAGAts, at least a few will pause and realize, “Wait, other countries have higher standards for their citizens than the food that myself and my family eat daily? Is that… a good or a bad thing?”

    And some small number will learn something they would’ve never been exposed to if the orange-moron didn’t say it.

    I don’t imagine it will reach many of them, they wouldn’t be MAGAts if they thought about things very deeply after all, but some of them will get it.

    Thank you Mr. President for starting this awareness campaign (in the stupidest way possible).

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      Nope, that would require them to think/know we don’t want their food because it’s a lower standard. They will instead believe we don’t want their food because we are jealous of them, or because we want to unjustly mess with them as competition.

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      That is an abstract thought. Something tells me a Trump voter really struggles with abstract thought.

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      they aren’t that willing to think about it,

      they will just think(be told) that Europe hates freedom and therefore American meat/poultry

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      at least a few will pause and realize, “Wait, other countries have higher standards…”

      Nice thought, but too generous. If you’re not England, France, or maybe Germany, then we consider you a third world country. (Incorrectly!)

      If anything, this will piss them off more: “How dare these third world countries reject the world’s best food?!”

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    You know, that’s exactly what I’ve said, every single time I’ve eaten beef, anywhere in Europe…“What weak beef! I bet that cow couldn’t have done more than 20 push-ups. I can actually taste that a 2-hour run would have taken that cow the better part of an hour.”

    🙄