I don’t even know what to really say about it. Truth be told I was kind of numb when the first migrants where shipped off to CECOT and GITMO, which is bad on my part, maybe it was a coping mechanism idk. But this guy’s harrowing case, the case of all these migrants that did nothing wrong outside of crossing a stupid line in the sand for the hopes of finding a better life, has me despairing even harder than usual. I just keep thinking about this all day and I feel guilty that my stupid first world white ass is free and allowed to partake in the empire’s treats while these people are sent off to concentration camps, probably to die.
I know this should radicalize me even further and strengthen my resolve to be a better leftist but I just catch myself like slipping into nihilism that it’s all futile and the bad guys have won.
And his is the most public case. How do we know there aren’t several more Kilmars in El Slavador now?
Seeing how this is all being covered is driving me insane. Just today I overheard a report that ICE arrest x amount of “very dangerous” illegal immigrants uncritically. How do I know they aren’t just making all this shit up? How do I know that they aren’t just a small percentage of the possibly thousands more innocent people that are being deported not just to El Salvador’s mega prison, but to countries that they’ve never been to?
And what enrages me even more are the people that I know that could just as easily be swept away in this xenophobic campaign just because they look like the “illegals” that they say they are glad are being taken away. Like what the fuck is it going to take for people to wake up?
Seeing how this is all being covered is driving me insane. Just today I overheard a report that ICE arrest x amount of “very dangerous” illegal immigrants uncritically. How do I know they aren’t just making all this shit up? How do I know that they aren’t just a small percentage of the possibly thousands more innocent people that are being deported not just to El Salvador’s mega prison, but to countries that they’ve never been to?
Seeing as the undercover cop who said Garcia is ms-13 literally lied and was a known liar who got fired for lying, all the time, I can see them just making up shit whole cloth.
According to 60 minutes most of the people deported had done nothing to deserve this treatment.
There are very few things in this life that deserve that treatment
My fellow American is absolutely rabid and bloodthirsty when it comes to the subject of treatment of imprisoned people or perceived criminals. It’s a widespread and fundamental sickness of the psyche, and I’m not sure exactly how to interact with people IRL about the subject. I think it was an important realization I had during the Bush II era, the extent to which my fellow Americans were okay with actual, real Nazi-level death squad shit and torture directed towards people who the perceived vaguely as bad.
The American psyche has an overly simplistic view of good & evil and carries doses of fear within it about society at large. Can thank the US propaganda machine and like local news reporting. Fearful people will not make much sense in their reading of things but maybe making them aware of their own fear that they carry could be helpful?
Say what you will about the USSR. At least they had due process.
Yes but 1000000 trillion billion in the gulads!
(Don’t mention that after the USSR fell, the numbers actually in the gulags was so low, westerner “intellectuals” thought the numbers were cooked. Don’t mention that the US were executing suspected spies while the USSR was EXILING and often allowing back ACTUAL FUCKING SPIES AND TRAITORS.)
How does China fair on that?
afaik in china most times if you end up in a court room its because you’re already confirmed on camera to be breaking the law. so it may be hard to actually say, it could look like 10/10 people who see court get convicted but that could be because those people were caught on camera breaking the law. i know for shit like traffic violations and shit police typically wont even bother you. you just get a fine in the mail showing you the evidence of what you did
What’s the procedure if not confirmed to break the law on camera then?
Almost everything is on camera in China.
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Did the trains run on time?
Without the USSR, the Nazis would never have been stopped. I know the German trains always ran on time, though.
Not sure if you’re ignorant to the expression.
USSR had plenty of arrests of dissidents with sham proceedings, resulting in horrible results for acts such as writing independent cultural poetry. The USSR had due process, like Auschwitz had due process.
I am not ignorant to the source of the expression. I’m pointing out how ironic it is that you’re using an anti-Nazi expression against the country that ended the Nazis, the USSR.
Both are cases where the states repression of the people was covered up with trivial but famtastical descriptions of competence. Mussolini’s trains weren’t actually consistently on time. The CCCP was rife with abuse of due process, both abusing dissenters and bypassing the corrupt.
The bad guys have won.
But they can’t win forever.
I kinda take solace in that.
But no matter how many times the bad guys are gotten rid of, they keep coming back again.
well to take solace, being white wont protect you for forever during high fascism.
It is absolutely terrifying. But I know what you mean - this should be radicalising people but this, along with how difficult life is now (so many people struggling immensely just to stay afloat) people are just getting worn down and despairing. People in the US are also probably too scared to take to the streets in case this happens to them.
people are just getting worn down and despairing. People in the US are also probably too scared to take to the streets in case this happens to them.
The best we can muster is some lib protests with epic Drumpf clapbacks.
I’m wondering now if this is at least part of the reason for the cost of living crisis, housing crisis, long wait times for medical care, etc. Maybe it was intended to wear us down and exhaust us so we’d be less able to fight back. Maybe what Trump is doing is just the start.
Maybe it was intended to wear us down and exhaust us so we’d be less able to fight back. Maybe what Trump is doing is just the start.
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Has me thinking about how if i got abducted there would be 0 news coverage, maybe a few people asking where i went who ultimately have no reach and eventually fading away drowned out by all the immense chaos rn and whatever other social media celebrity trends rise up
Im sure there’s people already who’ve been abducted and aren’t known
I know of a man in Texas who was a nuisance for a local city council. He disappeared one day, then his YouTube channel vanished.
Can you share their name/channel or any info?
I can’t unfortunately, it was someone else I know well who was following him and told me about this. All I can specificy was that it was in McAllen Texas, and that it made the news for one Texas TV station and one Mexican TV station when he became a missing person
Yea to me this should be a tipping point to radicalize people. But, of course, I have yet to meet anyone from my normie side of life (aka non-political) that actually is radicalized. I’m not even sure they know about it.
Then I think of how many fucked up things happened in the last 25 years that should’ve radicalized me and didnt. I think it’s going to take alot more awareness to get people to the actual tipping point. And as fucked up as it is, Trump is doing a good job of accelerating us towards it. I think the establishment is conditioned to always normalize the fucked up shit the president does. Trump being mask off is putting cracks in the system.
This is just me rambling, but I think the only hope for a proletarian revolution is for Trump to be in power. The democrats in power could only lead to a fake revolution where it’s just chuds with no class conscious who think the greatest threat to society is wokeism.
Only 12 of the people who were shipped off to the concentration camp had any serious offenses, and yeah they’re likely lying about almost all of it.
Honestly we’re still a long way from libs fully waking up but ordinary people are at least starting to see things in a different light, from what I’ve seen and heard talking to people still in the states. I think people are just shocked right because this is all happening so quickly.
Same. Watching from my shitty apartment as the country collapses and turns to fascism, drinking too much every day, it must be a similar feeling to how russians felt watching their country get the shock doctrine treatment after the collapse of the USSR.
I think putin has been trying to engineer payback to America for that since then. And its working. Good for him, america deserves to feel at least some of the pain it has inflicted abroad. And putin and china being able to manipulate america because their education included marxist perspectives while american elites just fucking made up ideologies to justify their decadence is very satisfying. Marxism wins again.
I think putin has been trying to engineer payback to America for that since then.
It’s not really “engineering” when all he had to do is sit back and let America destroy itself by being so very, very American.
If only the russiagaters actually grappled with the fall of the USSR and Yeltsin then they’d have a far more coherent perspective.
Just focus on what you can. Nothing is required. You are powerless alone. Keep caring like you do, continue helping how you can. No single one of us are required. All of us are required. If you feel you lack purpose, it means you’re searching. That’s good news. Patience. You’ll know it when it comes. Sometimes just being there, living, is enough to inspire. Just breathe today, and it will come.
Yeah, I feel it. I feel the exact same way. At the same time, as a trans person, I’m also scared and looking for a way out before they come for me. It’s hard to tell what is overreacting and what is self preservation. I feel completely powerless
Liberals still sitting on their assess and “protesting” instead of rioting is just peak Germany vibes.
I found a reddit group about 30 minutes ago that posts about ICE raids and related stuff.
I could only look at it for five minutes.
