Then there’s always that one guy who’s like “what about memes?”
MSpaint memes are waaaaay funnier than Ai memes, if only due to being a little bit ass.
Ass is the most important thing in a meme
EDIT: I feel like I could have written this better but I will stand by it nonetheless
Thank you for your service
Plus it let people with…let’s say no creative ability to speak of to be nice about it…make memes.
Anyone can have creative ability if they actually try though. And a lot of the low tech, low quality tools can produce some fun results if you embrace the restrictions.
Damn, I had no idea the Game UI DB guy was so based. Huge respect from me.
Of course copying is not stealing, but everything else.
But if a tangent from the post, but you raise a valid point. Copying is not theft, I suppose piracy is a better term? Which on an individual level I am fully in support of, as are many authors, artists and content creators.
However, I think the differentiation occurs when pirated works are then directly profited off of — at least, that’s where I personally draw the distinction. Others may has their own red lines.
e.g. stealing a copy of a text book because you can’t otherwise afford is fine by me; but selling bootleg copies, or answer keys directly based off it wouldn’t be OK.
If your entire work is derived from other people’s works then I’m not okay with that. There’s a difference between influence and just plain reproduction. I also think the way we look at piracy from the consumer side and stealing from the creative side should be different. Downloading a port of a sega dreamcast game is not the same as taking someone else’s work and slapping your name on it.
Totally lost, can someone give me a tldr?
It’s a person who runs a database of game UI’s being contacted by people who want to train AI models on all of the data en masse.
Damn straight!
I haven’t heard of this before, but it looks interesting for game devs.
Game UI Database: https://www.gameuidatabase.com/index.php
Me either. Seems like it would be a really handy site to use if you were making your own game and wanted to see some examples or best practices.
Had no idea it existed, I don’t make games though. But it’s always so cool to see something built that serves a unique niche I had never thought of before! Consulting used to be like for me but after a while, it was always the same kinds of business problems just a different flavor of organization.
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This is what luddites destroying factories must have been like lmao
luddites destroying factories
Every time a techbro parrots the word ‘luddite’ I want to cause them physical harm.
No, it is not - there is empirical evidence that AI is accelerating climate change. Every AI model has been trained on stolen or unethically sourced data. Your strong desire to create something that you can make money off of is not a moral justification for using AI.
You might be replying to an idiot, but did you really need to report him?
I didn’t, I very rarely report people.
Yea, I got the reporter wrong. First time I’ve seen a report, actually. I don’t know who added me as a mod here, or why (probably because of past posts, but still).
Everything is accelerating climate change. I don’t see how your wish to hurt people you don’t know (kinda weird btw?) has anything to do with it.
Gettem’ Jax
Weird considering at least 3 other people did see the point.
If I’m a luddite you’re a troglodyte.
OMG you pwned me with Internet points
Points mean nothing on this platform, I’d do my best to start deprogramming the redditor out of you.
Yeah they made sense and had a point, but clowns with bad takes won anyway cuz ‘muh capitalism’ and ratfucked the human race while their cheerleaders hooted like chimps on meth
Read a book, Slappy
That guy needs help, seriously. But then, this is Fuck-AI
This kind of deranged behaviour will only increase AI adoption not decrease it.
Of course people will see this as an attack on Anti-AI people & not me being concerned. But at this point I’m not surprised
Everyone who disagrees with me has mental health issues
This one surely has, you might not. Also isn’t this the same tactic you lot use ?
Did you ask ChatGPT for this opinion?
oh, the luddites have their own instance now, huh? cat’s out of the bag, folks. deal with it.
As an artist, all y’all need to chill. The problem is capitalism, and it’s not like artists make a living anyway. Democratizing art opens up a lot of possibilities, you technophobes.
End capitalism, then. I’m waiting.
Easy. Don’t work a job or pay rent. Anarchism already exists. It just exists in the crannies (like right in front of you) where other domineering primates don’t beat you with sticks or boss you around. You don’t fix the system. You ignore it.
You don’t fix the system. You ignore it.
I’ll tell that to the IRS the next time I refuse to pay taxes.
You’re not an artist if you think AI is OK.
think more. if i draw something that looks nice on paper, and at the same time am fine with asking chatgpt to solve a math problem, why would my views on ai affect me being an artist or not?
Because ChatGPT is trained on stolen data and using it for any reason is participating in that theft while simultaneously causing a significant impact to the environment.
So I guess your right; it has no bearing on whether you’re an artist or not, but whether you’re a decent person. Thanks for clearing that up.
Now what if you used an ai trained on uncopyrighted, public data, and made sure that the computers training it were using solar power or some environmentally friendly energy source?
Let me know when this happens then I’ll answer.
But you see my point, right? There is a point at which this stuff isn’t actually that bad.
It has the potential to be useful, yes. It isn’t currently and the path we’re on with it is already irredeemable.
You have no comprehension of relevance.
No I’m pretty sure I do.
On the surface. But, you’re being rhetorical, in the original sense of the word. You can link words together but fail to do logic. You’re doing duckspeak, quack quack
all art is stolen. no one has had an original idea since the early 20th century.
Ideas are not art.
no one has had an original idea since the early 20th century.
PROJECTING
ART HISTORY. read a fucking book sometime.
The early 20th century? I’d say physical philosophy would beg to differ, and do you see how you just killed your own argument by citing a time period? I think ideas don’t have value and that intellectual property stifles innovation. You had me in the first half, where I assumed you meant that people don’t just intuit new ideas from nowhere, then you cited a date and lost me.
do you see how you just killed your own argument by citing a time period?
no. all art prior to that period was just refinement of forms that go back to pre-history. the 20th century introduced ‘modern art’, which basically solidified the idea that anything can be art.
You’re just gatekeeping, not looking at what makes art that
saying that anything can be art is gatekeeping? ok buddy.
I don’t know who this guy is, but I’m with at least on this.
He’s a weird guy.
Makes a website sourcing screenshots from games for UI inspiration.
Sources UI art from Twitter with a bunch of contributors.
Has a boyfriend.
Active on Twitter, a site where you can “Heil Hitler” but you get blocked by saying Cis.
I don’t know the guy, but I do know the site, which is really nice for seeing how other games implemented UI. Makes complete sense for AI assholes to want all that data.
& they’ll get that data one way or the other
I drink your milkshake Elijah. I drink it up!
It seems we’ve come full circle with “copying is not theft”… I have to admit I’m really not against the technology in general, but the people who are currently in control of it are all just the absolute worst people who are the least deserving of control over such a thing.
Is it hypocritical to think there should be rules for corporations that dont apply to real people? Like why is it the other way around and I can go to jail or get a fine for sharing the wrong files but some company does it and they just say its for the “common good” and they “couldnt make money if they had to follow the laws” and they get a fucking pass?
Yeah, I’ve been a pirate for so long I have zero moral grounds to be against using copyrighted stuff for free…
Except I’m not burning a small nations’ worth of energy to download a NoFX album and I’m not recreating that album and selling it to people when they ask for a copy of Heavy Petting Zoo (I’m just giving them the real songs). So, moral high ground regained?
On the other hand, now I can download all the music I want because I’m training an AI. (Code still under development).
ITT: People who didn’t check the community name
I mean it does show up on the feed as normal and sometimes people feel like it’s fine to give an differing perspective to such communities.
To be fair, I thought I blocked this community…
Sure… And you just had to reply with that info.
