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The Trump Store released $50 “Trump 2028” hats Thursday, sparking backlash online as Trump has repeatedly hinted at running for a third term.

“I have had more people ask me to have a third term,” Trump said on March 31, claiming the 2020 election was “totally rigged.”

Steve Bannon said he’s exploring “five or six different alternatives” to enable a third run.

Critics on social media called it “insane” and a sign of “fascist” ambitions. Though barred by the 22nd Amendment, Trump could run again if it were overturned by Congress and the states. However, it would require a two-thirds vote of Congress and three-fourths vote of the states.

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    Third term has nothing to do with being a grift for money or whatever. He’s using that as a tool for power

    It’s simple. He’s going to jail when he’s done being president. And he’s pissed off so many people he’s definitely getting shanked

    He cannot pardon himself for state crimes

    The entire point of running a 3rd term is to stay out of jail

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      He is going to ride the courts until he dies or too old to care. They had 4 years to lock him up for his previous crimes including Jan 6th. He won’t see jail time and he knows it

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        Doesn’t matter. Remember how stressed he appeared during the last lawsuits.

        Make the prick stress the fuck out so he can’t sleep at night

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          he couldn’t sleep at night because he was getting all his sleep during the hearings

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        Why do you think he ran for presidency again… He was convicted. Legally, he can’t argue he’s running for a 3rd term, so the judge can’t make the same. The only thing the judge did was say he’d postpone sentencing…

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      “Power creates power. The more power you weild, the more you accumulate.”

      • Curtis Yarvin, brologarch that wants Trump to literally mass-drown journalists and Dems in foam to seize power.
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          To put on my own conspiracy hat for a moment, he’s getting set up to be the fall guy. He’s following a playbook he didn’t write, the people that did write Project 2025 know how unpopular it will be, and the final play is setting trump up as the tyrant to be deposed by a real dictator. Sure hope I’m wrong.

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        During his presidency…

        And he can’t pardon state crimes

        God knows how many more state crimes have been queued up since then…

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    In case anyone is still unsure, he is not willingly leaving in 2028. Everything that’s happening indicates he is setting up a path for him to remain. One of two things are going to happen in our future.

    1. We will need to march on DC in INSANE numbers and force him to leave with the threat of lethal force.

    2. We will have to use lethal force to make him leave.

    Only other possibility is he dies of natural causes before then. But then we get Vance and we’ll probably have to do the same thing. This isn’t just Trump. The entire GOP apparatus is a fascist movement. The only reason he didn’t do it last time is because he hadn’t set up the foundation for him to remain by doing things like, I don’t know, instructing the FBI to arrest federal judges who oppose him, which is a line we just crossed today.

    Fascism is here. Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train. Help others train.

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      But then we get Vance

      If Trump dies in 2026 then there are 10 constitutionally valid years of Vance ruling.

      Do you think the Constitution will stay unaltered until 2036?

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      He doesn’t care about that. Because he’s going to jail after regardless. So whilst he may be president, he’s fucked suffer way

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      Because of this comment, I think I’m going to start saving a little money for a quick trip to DC. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I think I want to be there when it does.

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      So it’s gonna be January 6th all over again?

      I’m not trying to be a pessimist, but this is the same kind of logic J6ers used in 2021. They believed that the election was stolen and tried to invade the capitol as a result.

      I’d like to be proven wrong here, but if a massive crowd of armed people show up to the capitol doors if trump is somehow reelected in 2028, you’d be hard pressed to convince most normal people that it’s any different than J6.

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        What showed up on Jan 6 were a few thousand redneck losers, many of whom already had criminal convictions. What I’m talking about is something that will need to be larger than the Civil Rights march on DC in '63. Larger than the 2020 protests. What showed up on Jan 6 were dipshits who believed an election was stolen without a shred of evidence. If this fuck tries remaining after 2 terms there’s no guesswork involved. No BELIEF that something is wrong. You’re going to see something unlike anything this country has seen before that unites all liberals, all independents, a lot of people who never identified as anything before, and probably even a lot of conservatives who still have some sort of red line.

        A president only getting 2 terms is one of those basic, foundational rules that is easy to understand. There’s lots of grey area in what Trump and his fascist enablers are doing, especially to stupid people. But even stupid people get the 2 term rule and can grasp why it matters.

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    He got into power rigging the election with Elon, Russia, and ballotproof. He will magically get enough seats in the midterm to overturn the 22nd and be king til he dies if successful.

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    Not saying I agree with the whole 2 terms 4 years each thing americans have let alone their political system in general, but who was actually surprised? That’s what fascists do, just take Mussolini.

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    You have to soft launch your fascist dictatorship. People need time to accept the possibility.

    It took a lifetime to turn the Roman Republic into the Principate. You gotta ease into these things to keep peope from shanking you on the senate floor.

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    I’m not going to lie, this is a profitable move by Trump, because his voters will line up to get them to antagonize those outside their in group, as was the entire point of their vote, to harm their enemies as an end in itself, regardless of whether he’s able to get the SCOTUS to rule that up means down and no third term means infinite terms for Republicans only.

    I’m just looking forward to all the idiots giggling about their own enslavement, as I see anyone wearing that hat as a derivation of this:

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      I was thinking of making a sign to be carried at a protest. One side would say “Honk if you support Trump.” The other side would say something like, “Only the assholes are honking.”

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    It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term. This is how confident he is the law will be changed or ignored.

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      It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term.

      Being a convicted felon made it illegal for him to run for a second term. Still didn’t stop him.

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      To be clear. It’s not just “the law” it’s the goddamn constitution

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          My mom used to always speed like crazy, and when people would complain, pointing to the speed limit signs, she’d always respond with something along the lines of “signs can’t limit speed, let me know if you see a cop instead.” Some people just don’t give a shit about the forms of soft power meant to keep people in line without taking real action against them. My mom was one, and our current president is another. The funny thing is that we’re going to have to ignore them as well to stop him.

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            I just broke a dudes nose the other day that drove like a maniac and blew through a stop sign on my block, nearing hitting me, got out of his car and threated me, swung, missed, and got a broken nose courtesy of my fist. People that ignore “soft power” will find the wall that stops them eventually.

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            The problem is, the law DOES matter for us dregs. It only doesn’t apply for the wealthy.

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              Well, it matters for us if there’s enough people to punish everyone. It’s like speeding - there aren’t enough traffic cops to catch every speeder, so while my mom would’ve gotten plenty of tickets if there were, in reality she rarely ever got one. If we organize, we can overwhelm the criminal justice system. It’s not a fun prospect, and I’d really hoped we could pull ourselves out of this situation by other means, but our current president is actively advertising his plans to become a dictator - working within the system is no longer an option.

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            Unfortunately, the tyrants have people with far more guns and resources at their disposal. “The blood of patriots and tyrants,” indeed.

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              They have the resources to stop many thousands of people. They do not have the force to stop millions.

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              What we have are competent leaders. All those strong military leaders that spent their lives rising through the ranks to the highest levels, have been replaced by incompetent loyalist idiots, and now they are on our side. When it kicks off, at least half of the military rank & file will side with the competent leaders they respect, and as the MAGA military flounders, more and more will defect.

              In addition, most people visualize a Civil War in which we are on our own, but that won’t happen. HitlerPig has very few allies in the world, and they are generally as incompetent as he is. Right off the bat, Canada and Mexico will side with the American Patriots against the MAGA Nazis, and so will Europe, once they band together to defeat Russia.

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                I don’t have the faith you do in our military to do the right thing, but I hope you’re right.

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      This is why they are so actively defying the courts and ignoring their rulings, especially the Supreme Court, and he’ll be doing it as often as possible between now and Election Day 2025. That way, when he defies them to serve a 3rd term, it will just be the latest in a long series of violations, and people will be too fatigued to fight about it.

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      It’s more than likely just another grift to leech money from his drove of idiot supporters… but who knows with this asshole

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      This is one law he can’t ignore. If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season. He would instantly become a domestic threat to the Constitution and any US citizen could legally attack him or anyone giving him aid. The US citizens would all basically become bounty hunters, and anyone that fought back to defend the illegal third term asshole would be considered a domestic threat as well.

      Pray this man is really this stupid. I kind of want to see that drama unfold.

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        If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season.

        How long ago would someone have said that about “if the president ignores a ruling of the Supreme Court in order to deport American citizens without due process”?
        Or “If people in plain clothes claim to be Federal agents and grab people off the street without badges or warrants”?

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          Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.

          If ICE comes to someone’s property they can be sent packing (and have been). If ICE stops the wrong person on the street they are likely to get messed up … they are just customs agents. The only reason they are getting to run wild like this is because they are catching slightly ignorant people off guard (not trying to be insulting, just meaning that they don’t know their rights).

          There is no fix for the Supreme Court … most of them are corrupt and need to be impeached, but they is no legal path to do it.

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            Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.

            And if the same thing happens when Trump runs again in 2028 what will be the difference?

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      Pretty sure this is him being confident he can grift even more money off his army of mindless cultists.

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      It won’t be his third term, it’ll be his fourth since the Democrats stole the 2020 election with widespread voter fraud and cheating (“the biggest fraud, and the biggest cheating, some say, many people say - and these are clever people - the biggest there has been”). So that’s ok then.

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    I don’t get the “rigged 2020 election” argument.

    Did he forgot about his first mandate? If he won in 2020/21 it would still make 2 mandates and he theoretically would not been able to go for 2024/25.

    OFC it is just a shit excuse to please his crowd, but math are math, one + one still equals two, 2020 election or not.

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    This is an excellent opportunity for someone to start selling “Obama 2028” hats.

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      Or Bill Clinton 2028 hats. They’re the same age, after all and the jokes write themselves.

      Bill Clinton - At least he was able to balance the budget.

      Bill Clinton - He’ll just fuck the interns instead of the rest of us.

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        Bill Clinton sucks. His policies directly lead us to where we are today and what he did to Lewinsky was sexual harassment.

        I know you’re joking but I don’t find him to be very funny.

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          Yeah, he really shit the bed when he repealed Glass-Steagall and opened the door for the corporatist hellscape we currently live in.

          Also, there’s a good bit of evidence that dude actually raped women. Clinton was my hero when I was a baby lib, I read his book and everything. I don’t think history will treat his (or his wife’s) memory kindly.

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      Let’s be honest, Obama is at least partially responsible for the USA being in the situation it is now. We don’t need Obama again, we need an actual left candidate that will actually fight for leftist agenda items, like Medicare for all, and not double down on W Bush policies and kill thousands of people with drones.

      Obama ran on a left leaning agenda with major grassroots support, then dismantled that organization and governed as a center right Democrat.

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        If we manage to emerge from this with MAGA destroyed, we will have a rare opportunity to rebuild this nation, and the LAST thing we should do is go back to the same old-same old, with weak, spineless, Democratic weenies like Obama, Schumer, and their weasely ilk.

        We need to have bold, courageous Democratic elected representatives who will hold the line when the Nazis try to rise again, and fight them with everything we have. Not like the last time, when they bent over at every opportunity.

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        The point is that there’s NOTHING that would infuriate Trump more - and any argument for how Trump can run for a third term will also then apply to Obama.

        Any US opinion of what’s “left” and “right” is unparseable for us who live in Europe anyways.

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          uh, he could lose to AOC and then he’s losing to a black woman that he already hates?

          You’re underestimating how easy it is to infuriate Trump, and overestimating how worthwhile it is. I’d much sooner have that fat fuck drown in his own blood than want to get a rise out of him. Instead of letting in a shitty moderate who ultimately enabled Donald Trump for the lulz, I’d prefer we get someone who will re-establish the rule of law and imprison Trump and all of his cronies.

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          If you sink to their level, they will beat you with experience. You think you can out-troll the nihilistic right. You can’t. Leftism is based on the idea of actually giving af.

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    Let’s be honest. His health isn’t going to make it. But regardless, if true, we should run Obama against him just so he can lose to a black man, again, before he dies.

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      Are you really willing to bet the future of the country on this? Evil has a way of sticking around way longer than you’d think…

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        Absolutely not. I would rather the constitution not get used like toilet paper for this waste of human space. But if they go full authoritarian, why not lean into it and play our own hand in a similar vein?

        I’m tired of taking the high road against fascists.

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          “legitimizing” their attempt to tear up the constitution by also doing it isn’t how you save it…

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            I might be getting misunderstood here.

            They are going to make an attempt for a third term. They are going to claim some constitutional loophole and the SCOTUS is going to agree with them.

            This is and always has been their plan. They’ve been screaming it from the rafters for the last 8+ years.

            This will happen one way or another, Trump will likely get “cleared” for a third term for some bullshit reason that every “constitutional lawyer” will decry foul on, but it will still happen because the pillars of our democracy have already crumbled.

            After that happens, we can either try and fight it and live in the past, or we can lean into it and adapt to fascism to fight fire with fire until such time that we can rebuild the pillars of our democracy.

            The 2 term limit was added as an amendment in 1947 after FDR was so damn popular that he would have just kept running and winning until he died, and the other side didn’t like it.

            They fascists should be more scared of repealing the 2 term limit than progressives, if they studied history. Which they don’t. So here we are.

            Edit: Why are you downvoting me for simply stating what is planning to and going to happen based on what’s already been done so far? Trump should have never been allowed to run for a second term, he’s got a 34 felony convictions, had several ongoing investigations and trials set including classified documents, fraud, rape, treason, and a coup attempt. If they cared about the constitution, he should have been outright barred from running at all, just like CO Supreme court ruled before the election. But the SCOTUS is in his pocket so they will overrule anything to give Trump an advantage.

            This will keep happening, downvoting me does not stop it. We can talk about what the appropriate level of response should be when it does happen, which is what I assumed we were doing, but it’s going to happen. I’m on the side of the camp that’s tired of taking the high road against fascism. It sounds like you’re not. That’s ok. We’re still on the same team and should work together to produce the optimal outcome for the most people here. We’re not enemies. We just have different approaches/responses to fighting fascists. That’s ok. I respect the high road perspective. I just don’t think it’s going to work. Because it hasn’t yet, and all we do are pile up losses to fascists.

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      The plan is to argue that only two consecutive terms bar someone from running for a third term, and have the Supreme Court’s Republican majority rubber stamp it, so Trump can run and Obama can’t.

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      His health isn’t going to make it.

      Doesn’t matter. Then we get Vance and the same situation continues. The GOP apparatus is a fascist movement. It’s possible it dies with Dear Leader, but the next up to bat will most likely step in and not much will change.

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      Fuck NO we should not run any other candidate. You want to imply that 3+ terms is acceptable?? That is friggin nuts

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        As mentioned in another reply, this is more fighting fire with fire sort of thing. They’re going to trample all over the constitution one way or another here it looks like. They already have. the SCOTUS has legislated some incredibly unconstitutional rulings in the last several years, so it’s going to keep happening.

        We can either stick our heads in the sand and say: NO, MUH CONSTITNTUION, and hide behind what is ultimately just a piece of paper with some words on it if nobody in power is willing to defend it; or we can adapt and fight fire with fire until we can fix the institutions that have collapsed and recover our democracy.

        If you try and take the high road with fascists, they’ll just keep winning. That’s literally what Fascism was created to destroy.

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      I really do like this idea. But I don’t think modern dems look at coorperate democrats like Obama the same way they used to.

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        Ah, but his dad wasn’t eating cheeseburgers every day and refusing to work out because he thinks it’ll kill him faster.

        Plus, his dad was in a bad way for the last decade or so of his life.

        You’re right though, he could live to be 90. Which would suck. But somehow, I just have to imagine there’s only so far the best medical care in the world will take you when you’re on adderall and pepsi/hamburders all day.

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        So did Steve Jobs.

        All the medical expertise in the world mean jack dick if one is too much of an egomaniacal jackass to admit that the doctors may, in fact, know better than you.

        Should we put all our eggs in that basket? Absolutely the fuck not, but it does still bear noting.

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          He’s an idiot, but he does has shown a willingness to follow medical advice. He got vaccinated against covid, after all.

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            Yeah, Jobs is admittedly an imperfect comparison because Trump doesn’t seem the type to try and combat cancer with fruit salad and good vibes (that seems like more of an RFK thing if any of them). I could, however, absolutely see Trump firing any doctor who dared suggest major lifestyle changes or anything like that until he ends up with some quack who will happily tell him whatever he wants to hear as long as the check clears. Shitcanning anyone who has the audacity to try to be the adult in the room and replacing them with whatever sycophant chortles his balls with the most enthusiasm is like half his personality. That’s gonna be a major fucking hindrance to anyone who’s job would involve at least occasionally giving him bad news.

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    And these hats still had to be designed, manufactured and shipped.

    Meaning, this wasn’t exactly done yesterday. Meaning that while Trump was publicly stating that “they want me to run for a 3rd term, but I can’t” this was likely already in the works.

    Not surprising in the least, but still worth pointing out and adding to the already huge pile of bs coming from him and his suckers.

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    If this joke of a nation had any merit at all, these coy suggestions would be disqualifying and his flabby, corrupt ass would be on the sidewalk or in jail tomorrow. Unfortunately, Americans are lazy, entitled, stupid, and collectively rich enough to pretend that there won’t be consequences to our shortsightedness.

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        Americans don’t have a democratic process to do anything about it.

        Hmmm, what would other countries do if they didn’t have a democratic process to do anything about it? Maybe the French have some advice…

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          I can’t tell for sure if this is a supporting comment, or if it’s sarcastically pointing out that Trump was elected.

          On the off chance that it is sarcasm, what I meant was that the people have no democratic process to remove elected officials from power.

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            I’m saying that if we had an actual democracy, 35% support from idiots doesn’t get you into office. It gets a little attention that fades and is almost forgotten a couple years later. You know, a sane world – in which we do not live.

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      The facts already disqualifying him is why he’s disqualified. Good to see Americans aren’t alone as the stupid ones