• carpoftruth [any, any]@hexbear.netM
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    16 hours ago

    if you count scenarios where hostilities are ongoing as the war being over, the war is already over and has been since 2023. there’s no outcome from here on out where ukraine isn’t a failed state for at least the next generation, no matter what other territory changes hands or how many people die

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      I don’t think there was any outcome where Ukraine could win from the start of the war, but what I’m talking about is the narrative collapse in the west. Right now we’re still getting articles like this gem arguing that Ukraine is winning actually, and there is still popular belief in the west that the war can be won.