Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.
Dear Canada:
Issue a warrant for Miller and his fascist wife and abduct them in the middle of the night.
Apparently we will just go with it now.
The tiny news item a few months ago about Miller and family moving out of his suburban house and onto a military base with the flimsy excuse about feeling threatened by sidewalk chalk doesn’t seem so amusing now.
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There are many who actually believe the midterms will solve this.
I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.
Oh absolutely. Keep engaging the system, such as it is. But know it won’t be enough. More is required. More that will not be done white knight riding to the rescue.
Yep, vote. 'Cause why not, it won’t make their job easier.
On the other hand, start thinking about escape.
No that’s the thing: If the problem isn’t solved by the midterms, it’s already checkmate. The main goal of an aspiring dictator like Trump is to disable the system’s checks and balances and prepare for their ultimate seizure of power. Thanks to decades of executive overreach most of the groundwork is already in place, so it’s entirely possible that Trump can get to a point where launching a coup is a realistic prospect by the end of the year, in which case he’s just going to do it because he can’t afford to be removed from power or he’ll be thrown in jail.
it’s already there… why do you idiots keep moving the goalpost to justify your inaction?
Don’t worry, they’ll make up for it by endlessly wanking about a glorious revolution that they haven’t even begun to lay the groundwork for, while attacking any attempt to make actual change as “incrementalism”.
I’m gonna vote, too, even though I fully expect to be arrested at some point for TDS because I voted for someone he didn’t endorse.
LOL
Ah yes, all the other Mao fans will know your a Mao fan now. And you can congratulate each other on owning the libs in a corner of the internet that’s already way off to the left of the mainstream
I’m not a Mao fan I just think it’s a funny image (and unfortunately topical in today’s world).
“Just joking bro”
Yeah, the mainstream is a great measure of morality these days
The time for electoral reform was 4 decades ago. Time to go through the motions. Good luck, and good night.
The entire system rested on Americans being American enough to willingly engage in peaceful transfer of power, for 250 years. Now, 66 million voted in a dictator instead. This is what that looks like.
77 million.
I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that. But then it might be too late to do anything else
Honestly it seems too late already. Let the midterms rip!
I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that
They’ll just place their desperate hopes on something else.
Anything to avoid having to actually do something themselves.
the idiots waiting for the midterm will juts push the goal post further
What other options do you propose?
I’m aware the midterms aren’t failsafe, but they’re the closest thing to hope that we have.
And if people make the same mistake as last time by boycotting the vote, then their defeatism will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
if we are relying on legal processes, we wait until midterms, magically retake the house and enough of the senate to impeach and unseat. that places the speaker of the house (not maga) in.
if we are relying on extralegal methods, we really ought to have better operational security than to discuss it on the internet. so…
That’s the thing, you won’t find the resistance units online at all if they’re smart. Can’t even take a turned off cellphone with you, we really should have studied more of the French and Norwegian resistances as well as other countries need to do what they did to Germany in WWII.
Edit: A missed word that changes a lot.
Ofc vote. This isn’t a boycott proposal. But let’s not pretend either.
I’m not pretending it’s likely that we’ll have free and fair elections followed by a peaceful transfer of power, but we’re also not in “no chance in hell” territory yet, and it is our most likely option.
If midterms come and go and it becomes obvious that elections were not both free and fair, or if there is no peaceful transfer of power in accordance with the will of the people as expressed by a free and fair election, then the third and fifth sentences of the Declaration of Independence come into effect.
Until that time, or under more favorable conditions, the fourth sentence of the Declaration applies.
I don’t, but it won’t hurt to voice how people think of the Admin and Congress.
Voicing dissent against the Admin shrinks the permission structure of its actions. Trump feels emboldened if the people have his back, and trepidatious if not.
Trepidation to a child-like tyrant might mean the difference between nuclear launch codes being used or not.
Ultimately elections mean nothing consequential in the US, but that doesn’t mean they can’t influence some politicians.
How’s the polls?
Any polls on what happens if your donald dies before the election in november?
In the medical industry there is a unit called the ICU, the Intensive Care Unit. This is where the ventilators live. A common side remark made by staff, depending on the day, the type of patients there, is that they are vegetable gardeners. Crude, but oftentimes accurate.
90 year old grandmas whose time has come, who have died, but the families are not ready to let go. So, grandma now lays in ICU, with broken ribs from the CPR that brought her back, unconscious, muscles atrophying and body deconditioning to anything but a bed. Brain dead people who are “fighters” who are “gonna pull through”. And so on. Passive bodies, carefully tended and watered in perpetuity, until the ethics committee gets involved or the family runs out of money after insurance runs out. We have this technology.
The question here is, even if Donald Trump dies, will he be allowed to officially die? Or will he become an orange flower in an ICU vegetable garden, tended and watered in perpetuity?
It occurs to me that none of his brain-dead followers will believe that it’s him unless they keep spray tanning a face onto the aforementioned vegetable.
They’d sooner believe it’s an AI fake and the “real” one has been abducted by Antifa, Greenland, Canada, or all of the above.
yes, we already know there are idiots everywhere… I mean, thse are the same idiots that couldn’t be bothered voting last time
Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?
Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.
Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.
Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.
Thanks for the correction.
Just the first step 😔
Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.
As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.
THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.
Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a CommunistThen they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a SocialistThen they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionistThen they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a JewThen they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me- Martin Niemöller
Attacking communists is the first step. That’s where the line needs to be drawn. Not an inch to fascism.
Yes, my opinion can be changed for Mexico, and it would be made in the moment.
Frankly I wish our governments would more openly stand with one another. I would support it 100%
By the way, the words Niemoller wrote refer to internal oppression and disenfranchisement. For any example of an external analogue in the same time period, consider UK agreement with Poland, that eventually pulled them into the war and which they courageously honored and defended. We don’t have such an agreement with Mexico.
I am Mexican Canadian.
Mexico hasn’t forgotten about all the stolen territory. Yes, they call it sale and secession and whatever, it was stolen.
If I put a gun to your head and ask you to sell me a property you have for $10. You are going to do it. I’d say I purchased it. I’m sure you’ll say I stole it.
So, why do disagree?
Because of the wise reflection of “first they came for the…”
Well. If we don’t stand against them taking over Venezuela, who is going to stand with us when they try to take over us (Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the rest)
The manifest Destiny is no joke.
indeed and the Alamo was setup to fail to create an excuse to invade Mexico. There were more Texas-Mexicans defending the Alamo than Caucasians.
I agree on everything you’ve said.
If I may ask, and forgive my ignorance: Am I wrong about Mexico? Is there any room for mutual support? Or is Canada generally an afterthought in Mexico, or worse, not trusted?
Canada is very far from Mexican consciousness.
Too bad for both of us, I guess.
US is in NATO so it doesn’t matter, to be honest NATO without US doesn’t exists because it’s EU, UK, US and Canada, that’s why EU wants Canada in and to be honest Canada should join to keep itself inside old union. US is heading towards BRICS right now.
Ironically I think joining BRICS would be a great move for the EU right now, both as an immediate out from the dollar based economic order and to pretty much jam soft power crowbar into BRICS itself that might turn it into a more open economic union and not just Chinas (and Russia playing with an unplugged controllers) sphere of influence.
That said I’m probably missing a TON of nuance that makes my take basic and dumb.
Fuck off Russian shit.
Why would you term Greenland a protectorate? It’s the territory of an ally.
It saddens me that Americans seem to be incapable of understanding even the concept of an ally.
I meant that it is under the NATO umbrella. I have no interest, and I would not support, any Canadian involvement in Greenland beyond our help and support in the face of American aggression.
and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba
Could you provide a source for this claim?
It’s the guys who were shitty owners of plantations ans lackeys of the US
It’s no secret that the US offered free flights to Cubans that disagreed with Castro, and this resulted in a large population of Cuban-Americans that want Cuba to go back to the “Cuba of Yesterday”
No one, absolutely no one will come defend Greenland, not even Denmark. They would have to send F35 to defend it, with their missions entry going through a server… in the US!! (And these geniuses doubled down, ordering more F35 last october, and they just ordered more military equipment from the US!).
No NATO member will declare war to the US.
The only option they would have is to immediately build a military base in Greenland with forces from all European countries, ready to fight. And then, MAYBE Trump will think twice before invading it.
You don’t get it.
The people posting shit like that WANT TO KILL.
They are bloodthirsty. They are warmongers. They want a bodycount.
There’s nothing more to realize about the joke because it’s not a joke.
America is ruled by murderers.
The only way it’s stops is when the blood lust they seek comes home to roost.
Covid didn’t stop them when it was already in their homes destroying their lungs. This cult scares me, you can’t fight the insanity, it makes them stronger if you do. What do we do?
If you listen to those with no skin in the game, the answer is easy, we’re just lazy, see? What sucks is that this problem is in the final chapters of the story, but many of us who want to do more are fighting the complacent populations of previous and current generations’ inaction. We didn’t make the mess alone, but now it’s all on us to fix it.
To those with that attitude toward the American population, doing what they can to push back, they can go ahead and eat my whole ass. To those of you doing what you can, while balancing your very survival, keep pushing and ignore the fuckers trying to shame you. Every act of resistance, no matter how small, furthers your cause. We need to remember this, always.
They can’t handle a rifle due to medical reasons and their moms told them to be back by dinner.
I’m not sure about this. They’ve got a more than capable military.
But I’m willing to find out where their limit is. Militarily, I suspect it starts at a protracted war of attrition with a determined enemy that looks exactly like them and who pops in and out of unassailable and impassable northern boreal forests and muskeg swamps. Or hides in plain sight in the middle of Toronto. Or hops over the immense border to wreak havoc. No one would be safe, ever.
Economically, I think cutting off hydro, oil and potash would have an enormous effect on their comfort level. For lasting damage, nationalize all strategic resources and seize assets and companies. Raze them if threatened, starting with US assets. Nationalize all IP and patents. Sell all US government debt and send the interest rates sky high.
The weakness the US has is that they are doing this for more power and a comfortable life. They AIM to survive it. Frankly at a certain point I don’t care about that. Our fight is existential, and we have given up on a vision of life after. What matters at that point is the here and now, and that’s it.
The biggest weakness of the US is that Americans hate one another. At the current time another civil war in the US isn’t in my best interests. But future events might change that.
Also, I don’t want to fight Americans in the streets of Toronto. I would be willing to fight Americans in the streets of American cities tho. The American concept of war is something that happens “over there”. How would Americans handle it if war wasn’t just some drone video of a boat in the Caribbean getting hit by a missile?
Hopefully it won’t come to that. But people obsess over troop counts a little too much and don’t think at all about the weakness inherent in American culture. That weakness obviously led to Trump and the general decline of the US. That decline can be either mitigated or exploited. We’ll just have to see how it goes.
I don’t think the average republican is capable in a fight, but I do think they fantasize about ethnic cleansing.
And you really think they are the ones fighting?
They remove social services and the only out for poor people is the army.
Yes and they have a sizable enough of supporters who would turn those guns inwards that just going to the streets armed without proper organization isn’t going to do jack shit. Stop calling for us to just blindly kill each other you fucking dimwits. People talk about how stupid Americans are but dear god is the mirror shattered in them understanding us.
Fantasy: The People will revolt due to the already terrible conditions worsening before that
More realistic hopium: We’ll remove Republican control from the house before then
Reality:
We’ll remove Republican control from the house before then
If that happens Trump will just launch a coup, so it just reduces to fantasy and reality.
Honestly, still not a bad outcome. If it’s happening either way it might as well be sooner and not on his terms. If he launches a coup then no one can pretend to be blind anymore.
Nah, people will say he was justified in it and it was the best way to get “woke liberals” out of government or whatever
Some. I doubt most will.
What is it that humans need? Hollyhops? Hoplites? Idk.
Probably not a full-blown coup. He had lots of chances to do that already if his ducks were in a row, including 2020. But, US presidents have so much power there’s quite a range of lesser options one could employ to shut down democracy.
The People will revolt due to the already terrible conditions worsening before that
what people? the meek in the usa who have not even manage a protest onea weekday too afraid of losing their job at Walmart?
Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.
Will nobody rid this poor planet of Stephen Miller?
Miller is this administration’s Himmler.
Trump is the demagogue that controls the masses, they’re the puppeteers controlling him. They KNOW he doesn’t have long so they’re doing what they can in a short amount of time. The USA is now a hostile power in the world and people don’t realize that. What are they going to demand their governments do?
We know it’s not a joke. The three most populated cities in the US are in deep blue states and full of people who don’t want this. For everyone in those cities, it would take days and hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to travel to the White House. Most of us are behind on rent, have had our cars repossessed, don’t make a living wage, don’t have healthcare, and have unsustainable credit card debt.
Outside of a very vocal minority, the American people are overwhelmingly united around the fact that we don’t want this to happen.
However, the American people aren’t in control of the American government, and the American government are overwhelmingly united around corporate interests.
There is still hope…
I’d like a faster processor.
Feet first, too.
This is the only answer.
I’m in this photo and I don’t like it :(
This is done because there are no consequences, no repercussions. A convicted felon and rapist is in charge instead of in jail. The checks and balances of their system have long since failed.
Too much was based on good will, public outcry and political capital. When MAGA proved they will excuse anything, they doomed the system.
If the system is ever recaptured, we must put stronger checks in. Or suffer the same fate.
I’d like to cite the last two definitions given by Shoshanna Zuboff for surveillance capitalism:
7. A movement that aims to impose a new collective order based on total certainty; 8. An expropriation of critical human rights that is best understood as a coup from above: an overthrow of the people’s sovereignty.
There’s way too many, like myself, who can’t even afford to take a week off of work much less however long it would take to revolt.
And we’d be going up against a military that just waltzed into another country which has a functional and organized military and expect to succeed against them grassroots?
I don’t think anything will happen before a state or group of states splinters off with their national guard as support.
We’re definitely not laughing. Well, not the ones against him - which does seem to be the majority, at least when you’re here.
This is really it in a nutshell.
I’m honestly not sure what to say to the Europeans and other non-Americans posting a lot on Lemmy lately, who seem to think all Americans - even those who have opposed every Trump action and have despised Trump since the 90s - are individually to blame for Donald Trump.
I’m like: Imagine everyone around you decided you were going to be married to an abusive spouse. You never agreed, yet sure enough, one day you woke up legally married to, and having to live in the same house with, a delusional, malignant narcissist abuser. No divorce possible, consent was never required after all. And if you tried to ask for help, your neighbors - who want you to know they absolutely hate abusers! - would spit at you and say, “Take care of your own problem!”
Ok, thanks, appreciate it.
You know its even worse than that - fascist or fascist adjacent parties are leading in polls in the UK, France, and Germany simultaneously. Canada and Australia only avoided electing mini trumps as a response to trump. And that’s only speaking of the larger countries. When I hear someone on here go off about how the “world” has always known the US is just bad I’m amazed. Can you not see what is happening in your own countries? International capital is making its move, and something is happening across the democratic world.
Cribbing this from some tumblr i saw: “My wish for 2026 is that Europeans will be as critical and vigilant about authoritarianism and racism in their own country as they are about them in the U.S. and that Americans will be as critical and vigilant about authoritarianism and racism in the U.S. as Europeans are.”
Here you go: https://youtu.be/vvaquOcNEKI
That’s what we expect you to do.
Yes this, it’s real and important.
Does the story of the burning bed carry any weight?
It’s just one more slap across the face, one more forced sex in the middle of the night and being choked as the fat fuck does what he wants and then the little Mrs. is gonna snap.
And you think action will be easier if you wait longer? You are wrong, things are only going to get more difficult.
Facism is a cancer. You cant ignore it or reason with it, or hope it goes away. The only option is to take the terrible medicine and fight, now.
Well, yeah. It will be perhaps not easier if you wait for a mass of discontent or an inciting incident, but it will be winnable. You can’t fight alone. Yes, it’s going to be a fight and a challenge, but we have to convince the masses that the status quo is not normal any more, and convince the notoriously easy going and anti violent crowd to understand that violence is necessary. If you fight too early, you’ll get all the centrists against you as well - and we can’t have a two front fight.
Groups of like minded individuals are already beginning to form. Those will naturally coalesce when the time is right.
What immediate, terrible medicine do you propose? I’m legitimately interested.
Thats the thing, I dont know what the medicine should be.
I feel like we are waiting either for an incident like you suggest, or a leader who is able to rally the un-interested, un-motivated, and burned out masses. The left does not have their super star yet.
Yeah, I agree. The left’s leadership is really just “less right”, but equally owned by corporations. That’s not gonna do anything for us.
Some cancers are terminal/inoperable…
Thats true, but i dint think thats the case here. Regimes can always be changed. Sure it might take a couple decades, but even rome eventually fell.
Anyone who thinks warmongering, fascism, and terrorism are unAmerican has not read much American history. The U.S.A was founded on genocide, grown on slavery, and has oligarchy baked in to their constitution. Hitler studied the way the U.S. treated indigenous and black people to form his genocide plans, and Israel has built on both the U.S. and Nazi examples for their treatment of Palestine.
The beat goes on.
They also have a history of not giving a fuck and finding excuses to get things done even if it’s bending the rules. When European countries were paying tribute to the Barbary pirates, the US didn’t have a declaration of war but they sent naval boats over essentially with the instructions “don’t start it”. They didn’t start it, and it wasn’t over super quickly, but they did finish it.
What people hear when you say things like this: Ah, so this is business as usual, and while it sucks for the people affected, keeping my head down should continue working to keep me out of trouble. I’m powerless to fix this stuff, anyway, so I should just dissociate and worry about my own problems.
And then they don’t show up for elections…
Ah yes, elections will fix everything in the USA, just vote harder next time.
Just to make what I am saying as clear as I can without someone putting words in my mouth: The existing system is functioning as designed and as it has ALWAYS “worked” , and if the people of the world are going to have a chance to survive they need to destroy the current one, and replace it with one that cares about people and the planet, not just profits.
Well, we have plenty of people on Lemmy who place the blame for this situation on the Americans who didn’t vote for Kamala Harris, as if they weighed the stakes, deliberated, and decided affirmatively that not voting was the correct action. It’s like the people who believe that have never met actual humans. Denial and dissociation ‘works’ very well for us as a psychological defense mechanism.
Now, if we have any hope, we need people to work together to shut down the fascists. I’m just sayin’ that this here is a much better way to put it to motivate them, while telling them that “it’s always been this way” and “the U.S. is simply evil” is a great way to push people back into denial and dissociation.
American propaganda agents should be hunted down and butchered.
Bannon saying he’s gonna give Ireland a trump should get his ass in the space station with Mountbatten.
Germans had a prideful couple of years when France fell but then it got ugly. So average mercan will no doubt celebrate on the short term about how great frump and merca are. Reality for them is a few years away. Think of this as 1938. Merca didnt join the war against nazis in 1942 ‘til Europe was defeated and england was on its knees.
The “average American” despises Trump and MAGA. MAGA is a minority in this country. Our problem is that our elected politicians have CHOSEN to allow MAGA to flourish, despite strong condemnation from the citizens.
Congressional Dems will likely control Congress after the 2026 Midterm Election. Let’s see if they will finally take bold and decisive action against MAGA, like the voters are demanding.
The “average American” despises Trump
How did Trump win the elections in a two party system if over half the population despises him? I know the US electoral system is not directly related to raw amount of votes, but still.
More people didn’t vote at all than voted for either candidate.
Many people who voted for Trump are already regretting it hard, per polling
Trump actually got less votes the second time than he did the first time. Voter turnout in the US is miniscule, with less than half the population voting for a variety of reasons (gerrymandering, voting day is not a federal holiday so people still have to work, the lack of politicians who do what they promise, etc.).
So roughly a quarter of the country voted for him, and some of them voted for him because he isn’t a Democrat. There’s a great story about how a trans person who ran on a defund the police campaign got elected county sheriff in Vermont because she ran as the Republican candidate. Enough people showed up and voted for whoever had the R next to their name without ever listening to any of the candidates to know what their stances were that she won by a landslide.
Because they CHEATED, and EVERYBODY knows it, even MAGAs. They’d love to brag about it, but they can’t.
In America, the president isn’t chosen by popular vote. No Republican has won the popular vote on America since Reagan in 1980, and they are less popular now than have been in decades. Trump claims he won it in 2024, but again, they cheated, so it doesn’t count.
How did they cheat? The presidential race came down to the votes in 7 swing states, as it usually does. Somehow, despite no polls showing it in advance, Trump won decisively in every single one of those states, almost a statistical impossibility.
To cheat, all they had to do was flip one race, in 7 states, and in those seven states, there were MILLIONS of ballots with straight Democratic tickets, but Trump at the top. MILLIONS! And yet, I’ve never seen a single voter claim they voted that way. I don’t know any, and I’ve never seen one interviewed on TV Supposedly there are millions of them, but nobody has ever talked to one. If you still doubt that, understand that nearly all of those split tickets came from those 7 swing states. We are expected to believe that those sorts of voters only live in those states, and nowhere else.
Besides that, there are many very strange statistical anomolies in districts and states across America, but nobody on either side is talking about it, the media is complicit as usual, so they aren’t covering it, leaving private individuals to collect the data and exposing it. It starts to sound like a conspiracy theory, but sometimes, even often, conspiracies are true.
They had four years, and a close alliance between three of the most psychopathic Oligarchs on the planet, including one with the power of a hostile sovereign nation, and two of them with confirmed advanced hacking capabilities, to get their voting machine fraud strategy operational.
Worse, the moment the race was over, the Dems voluntarily declared that the MAGAs won it “fair & square,” even though it was fishy at the outset to anyone with basic Critical Thinking Skills. They didn’t take even the slightest look at it, they were too busy getting excited at the prospect of being smug about teaching a lesson to MAGAs about how to have a peaceful transfer of power, as if MAGAs care about that at all.
And consider this: Trump routinely cheats at everything he does. Everything. He thinks it gives him an advantage over those weak people with morality, which it does. He cheats even when he doesn’t have to, because he always thinks it will give some sort of an advantage.
He was about to go to trial, and almost certainly would have ended up in prison, as the evidence of his treason in two separate cases was incontrovertible. The only thing that would keep him out of prison for the rest of his life, was becoming president. So we are supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison for life, was the one election that he decided to finally play it “fair & square” for the first time in his entire life? How can ANYONE be that obtuse?
The Democratic Leadership reaction finally exposed, once and for all, how weak and cowardly the Dem leadership like Schmuck Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, etc. truly are. They don’t really want power, all they care about is remaining in office so they can keep padding their bank accounts with insider trading. It’s as if they know that the entire world is about to turn authoritarian, and the only thing that will save them and their heirs is a shit ton of money, so they are concentrating on that, instead of saving America, and the world, from MAGA rule.
MAGA is only about a 1/3 of America, and shrinking. They got into power by cheating, and they will hold power through brutality. We have a couple of elections ahead that will secure the future one way or the other, and it is literally the Democrats last chance, and they actually have a good chance to prevail…
…unless they squander this opportunity, the way they did during the shameful Biden administration, and fail to crush MAGA once and for all, and purge it from our government and our society. Then America will be lost, and likely slip into Civil War, and the rest of the world will be on their own to prevent their own takeovers by Russia and China.
Other countries need America to slip out of this peacefully nearly as much as America does. They need to pressure their leaders, to pressure the Democratic Party, to take its responsibility seriously, and either fight back, or get out of the way and let the rising Progressive Warriors have a go at stopping MAGA.
Didn’t Trump thank Elon publicly about helping, saying something along the lines that “Elon is very good with Computers”?
Yes, he did. Something along the lines of “Elon’s very good with computers. He fixed that right up for us.”
It is common in various countries that large part of the population does not vote.
What does this have to do with the point? I was pointing out that it is unrealistic to assume that the majority of the US population despises Trump, yet he won the elections in a dual party system. That is because if you despise one of the parties in such a system then the choice is very clear.
some of them voted for him because he isn’t a Democrat.
Then if I should take both this point and the one above as true, the conclusion should be: over half the Americans despise Trump, but a larger quantity despise Democrats more than Trump.
Because the votes are not at all a representation of the country. The country is actively hostile to voters, particularly leftists. This means that a disproportionate number of votes are from conservatives, because the stats say that they would never win again if voting was actually fairly accessible to everybody. Combine that disenfranchisement with the disillusionment in both the system and the Democratic party, and it’s easier to make sense of how Trump won this last election despite getting less votes than he did the last time that he won.
I would say that your second point is more or less correct. Trump got less votes than his last term, but the Dems lost even more votes for various reasons. From running an unpopular candidate to running on a platform that largely consists of leaning more and more conservative year after year to gagging their actually popular candidates, leftists are fed up with the Dems.
The “average American” despises Trump and MAGA.
So? If they don’t actually do anything then it’s a pointless statistic. Get off your asses and start actual meaningful protest/strike/boycotts until it changes. Until that happens nothing will change.
Or if they’re the paid opposition like a lot of people think they are. When progressives were on the rise, they undermined them and coddle with the fascists in doing so to negate it. Fucking corporatist neo-liberals.
What is “Paid opposition?” They certainly serve many of the same Sociopathic Oligarchs as the MAGAs, but I’m not sure they’re as openly corrupt as MAGAs. They take campaign funds, run interference for them, give them favorable treatment, etc., but the MAGAs have formed a tight alliance among the most psychopathic Oligarchs on the planet to little rally take control of America for their own personal exploitation. As bad as they’ve been, I can’t agree the Dems are that bad - yet.
I prefer to look at them as managers for the same terrible company. Some managers are cool, and pleasant to work for, while others are sadistic, and terrorize everybody for every minute they are at work. Obviously, we’d all like to work for the nice managers, but ultimately even they have the same agenda and objectives as the sadistic managers - to force the workers to produce profit far beyond reasonable expectations, and sacrifice their entire lives to the corporation, or else.
If we want to make a substantial change, then we have to force both types of managers to fear US, and appeal to THEIR bosses for relief. That won’t ever happen though, and so eventually we will have to shove the weak managers aside, and deal with the Sociopathic Oligarchs ourselves.
Paid opposition is essentially they’re paid for by the ones truly in power, the Sociopathic Oligarchs, to be the foil to the other party they want to maintain control with. They present an “alternative” to voters but in the end don’t make major changes, they’re just like a ratchet only going in one direction. That any have voted at all for Trump appointees under this regime instead standing opposed in solidarity doesn’t beat the rap of them being that. And how they want more corporatists to run than actual progressives and they will go all out on progressive candidates to the point of compromising their position to do so.
Valid.
Yeah the average German wasn’t too fond of that Austrian guy other. It took the minority of die hard followers and the apathy of the majority for it all to happen.
Who is going to be WW2 America in this metaphor?
Australia volunteers the emu army.
A Russian-China spearheaded alliance. Who else would want to gain from American military chaos
Sir, Russia can’t complete a 3 day special operation. If China had the will and firepower to stop the US they’d be able to do it without Russia.
And we don’t know if China would actually team up with the EU to fight the US, or let both sides weaken each other while they take over Taiwan.
When China says they’re not interested in full, overseas military adventurism, I actually believe them. China is so big, unwieldy and diverse that even in good times it’s hard to keep it stable internally, and one thing the Chinese government is VERY good at is taking an EXTREMELY long-term view of its actions. If China decides to act against the US, it will be in myriad subtle and indirect ways that accomplish its goals without sudden shock and exposure.
Incidentally, the US itself is also a fantastic example of why China WON’T do that. Post WW2, with very few exceptions, almost EVERY instance of US military adventurism has ended in failure, or at the very least, not gained the US anything compared to the losses. But the US’s work in soft power, partnerships, and containment? That brought down the Soviet Union without firing a single shot.
China won’t be stupid enough to try to take America’s place by using the US’s loser tactics - it will do it using their successful ones.
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I don’t think China would team up with the EU explicitly, it would be more of a pact against a common adversary.
There is no USSR this time around though. China’s foreign policy is pretty much hands off, see e.g. the attacks on Iran and Venezuela that are going to tank chinese investment there, but all there is are strongly worded letters.
As the rate of profit continues to fall the US will start to strip the copper from the EU, fund fascist parties and as we have seen they will kidnap a president that isn’t sufficiently compliant. How much respect they have for european countries sovereignty we can see here. On top off this, once Ukraine officially loses, fascists might blame us and start terror attacks as well. Future in europe is looking pretty grim I’d say.
When trump dies all of these people will end up killing each other for the throne.
One can hope. It will be delicious watching the GOP self immolate in the ensuing squabbles.
Then there will be a victor… Promising to really mAkE maga great again and people will fall for it. Again.
When will the rest of the world ? Not a peep from my shitty governemt here in Australia, we just keep doubling down and buying weapons from the US, nuclear submarines of all the stupid things.
Hey cousin!
We just bought some over the horizon radar from you guys!
Unfortunately we’re also contemplating buying some locked down F35s that are sure to be kill switched by the US when they decide that they want our resources. I think we need to accept that the F35s are not going to happen, and instead get the Gripens. At this point it’s seems like the height of stupidity to trust them, especially with our military hardware.
Locked down planes? Install Arch Linux on them
I fly arch btw
Yeah, that combined with the big servicing challenges for the F35s really makes me think getting them isn’t the right move. For once the glacial pace of Canadian military procurement helped us.
So much money already spent on them for nothing. Brutally wasteful.
In this case we should consider that money spent determining how to avoid giving up our sovereignty.
Hopefully we dodged a bullet.
As is Canadian tradition. It is not even the biggest waste currently in military spending.
You’re gonna need that submarine if you go to war with your biggest trading partner at the behest of America.
Canadians? Shit, this should invoke and article 5 of NATO.
You REALLY think any other NATO’s member would lift a finger? Some will just make public statement saying that’s “not following international laws”, some will call for “de-escalation”, but no one will actually declare war to the US. They won’t even send equipment’s support to Denmark, as all they can spare was/is sent to Ukraine.
Similarly, is Canada actively preparing its army to defend Greenland from a US agression? Anyone believes Canada would do anything at all?
NATO doesnt have any articles about one member attacking another.
Seems like an oversight.
