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Yeah well peace doesn’t make itself you know.
Peace can’t exist without war, don’t you know? … wait a second …
Are there a lot of fishermen out there for Hegseth to soften his murder boner on?
Do we really need to bomb Iran again?
Can’t we just… not?
If we want to see this stop, we need a revolution. We need to build a worker-led anti-imperialist movement.
trump can’t reply as he’s deep throating netanyahu
Surely Netanyahu has kompromat on him too right?
Epstein was working for Israel. They’ve got it all.
Do we think that’s where Russia got it, or they have their own.
while getting banged from behind by putin.
Nah Putin is watching from the cuck chair
Hey, what you don’t trust me?
There used to be a satirical musical group called the Capitol Steps that sang a song called “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran” sung to the tune of the Beach Boys Barbara Ann. This was at 20 years ago. Unfortunately, Covid killed the group (as in made it no longer viable because people quit coming to see them, not actually killing them).
I wish they’d try to make a comeback.
yeah US Senator John McCain of Arizona himself loved to sing that little ditty
We’re still looking for the WMDs.
I’d love to see the end of the Ayatollahs myself.
Many people do, but there are legitimate concerns about
- if an invasion could even actually achieve this,
- the humanitarian cost of it (aka A LOT of innocent people dying or losing everything),
- the long term effects of destabilizing a whole region and
- the damage to the rules based global order caused by yet another war of aggression from a side that is supposed to support and not undermine that order.
Theoretically… what would happen if Iran or someone else happens to magically sink this thing, fighter jets and all?
More pollution in the Mediterranean :(
Without reading an article, but I will assume you mean a magical macguffin weapon just…sinks it and no one knows what happened. The response depends on a few things.
Without its strike group
Threat assessment will show its defenses were overwelmed by the macguffin weapon. Maybe even conventional missiles - these things aren’t invincible.
With Strike Group
The normal Carrier travels with 12-15 destroyers and other auxiliary vessels to provide screening and defense overlapping. If the carrier is struck and damaged/sunk in the center or back of this strike group, without loss of other vessels, an immediate retreat and Threat assessment will be done to see how the macguffin weapon got past everything else. This would be the concern - again Carriers aren’t invincible, but how your macguffin got past so much radar would be important and the MAIN focus, if the macguffin did not do it in an immediately obvious way.
Strike Group disabled/sunk
If the entire strike group is damaged/sunk, the entire fleet will pull back to begin assessing risk of the macguffin. Damaging a fair number of ships run by the United States in a short order should be beyond poor nations capabilities, so the macguffiin weapon would necessitate reevaluation. Delay of at least a week to assess where/what the macguffin weapon is, (Assuming its a singular object) and then if the target, say Iran, is able to be struck within a specific loss ratio of troops.
A macguffin weapon like a Deathstar type where it can fire at single target position would give most Threat analysis away and the immediate questions to answer would be 1. How much energy/fuel/ammunition does it cost to fire. (If a broke country can afford a mega laser - how don’t I have one?) 2. How does it target (radar can be blocked, is it manually aimed as direct fire/ parabolic like artillery) 3. How can it be avoided (like blocking radar to aim, or like can a physical obstruction block the firing angle. 4. Can it be destroyed (is it susceptible to a strike team on land to sabotage?) 5 Is there more than one.
If it looks like something that could happen again, rather than a one-off fluke, USA would have to change their whole naval doctrine. The strategic arms balance of all countries would need to be reassessed.
I don’t want to see people die, but the US needs to suffer a wound like this.
Because that worked out so well the last time…
The last time they needed desperately to bring the public support for a war around bcs the ppl were very much against a war (with financial/imperial goals).
Ohhh … yeah, I see, poor ship.
Monkey paw finger curls
Hiroshima, August 6th, 1945
Could be used as another USS Liberty, though I’d assume they would go for a cheaper carrier, and it looks like Israel is getting all the support from USA it needs.
Kind of off topic, but I’ve seen the the Ford carrier in Virginia before and it is HUGE. It’s crazy how big this ship is. It’s like the Empire State Building tilted sideways. When you see it irl, it really puts in perspective just how powerful one ship can get.
It will probably trip and fall then jump saying it’s OK. Gerald Ford actually like Dana Carvey’s portrayal of him.
Chevy Chase
Oh. You’re right. Dana did Bush the first. Wouldn’t be prudent.
