Soon after I joined Lemmy a few years ago, I searched for communities based on my interests and subscribed to the ones with the highest numbers of users to ensure they are active. Sometimes I joined multiple, but then saw that some people post the same thing to more than one, cluttering my feed, so I left the smaller ones.
It’s only after my community ban from !games@hexbear.net for disagreeing about Ukraine that I was told about MeanwhileOnGrad, learning exactly what “the tankie triad” means and why big Lemmy instances have defederated from those. Lemmy.ml, where the ML probably stands for Marxist-Leninist, seems to have been defederated by fewer, possibly because it’s run by the creator of Lemmy, Dessalines. Nevertheless, there is evidence of Dessalines holding the same authoritarian communist views as the rest.
Recently, there were two posts on !privacy@lemmy.ml about Signal, but then in both cases, admin davel (who is known on MoG for seeing CIA’s hand in running Ukraine, among other things) and Dessalines linked (1, 2, 3) the same article by Dessalines, which not only argues Signal could be a CIA honeypot (as if it matters when proper e2ee is used), but also manages to shoehorn China even into that, claiming its government “prefers autonomy”. This sort of portrayal of totalitarianism as sovereignty is the reason I unsubscribed from the community. As it has been said by others, ML is not a neutral instance but a means of pushing authoritarian views onto unsuspecting users.
Oh hey, I remember that STALKER thread, I’m in it.
As usual, anti-“tankie” user got caught spouting Nazi apologia (why is this literally 100% accurate). I notice they left out the bit where they justified suppression of the Russian language by referencing, among other things, the USSR daring to oppose Nazism during WW2.
Going on to criticise people for saying the US is a possible intelligence threat is not a surprising progression from there.
You’re not gonna get good privacy advice from people whose lives aren’t threatened by the state.
maybe i just want to hide what i’m buying from the wife
Why can’t I find a community that supports nuanced discussion that falls completely within the confines of CIA propaganda!
you know when you say a word like 50 times and it stops sounding like a word anymore? that is what internet westerners have done to the word authoritarian within my mind palace
To be fair, it isn’t really a word with any real meaning beyond “Grr! Thing Bad! Me no like!”
semantic satiation. and mood.
Lemmy.ml, where the ML probably stands for Marxist-Leninist
It must be so easy for this person to find a police procedural to like. No twist is too obvious.
should we let .ml know they’ve been rumbled?
This person is a known to me as a drama focused, MoG following, concern troll and should be blocked.
Let’s stick to the real world, not weird analogies. By default, Lemmy users are presented with an All feed, which includes communities from all instances (except those defederated). When you see one called “games” (at hexbear, whatever that means) and then maybe see its trans flag banner, what’s the reasonable expectation? Discussions about games with people who seem to recognize the value of minority groups and viewpoints, right? And then it turns out those people hijack discussions about gaming to praise or defend totalitarian states who oppress minorities; then they ban, insult and harass you if you disagree. Likewise, what does the notion of China preferring autonomy have to do with Signal in the context of privacy? No reasonable person comes to a privacy community expecting to see praise for China.
Sometimes the only response I can give to a person is linking them resources for live organ donation.
And then it turns out those people hijack discussions about gaming to praise or defend totalitarian states who oppress minorities
What are they talking about? We hate those countries.
They mean non-white countries.
They oppress the global minority of white people, which is the only one I care about 😔
Yes hello, I would like to learn more about privacy.
But don’t tell me about threats to my privacy unless I already know about them.
I don’t want to change my mental model of the world, I already know everything important.
what would china even do with my jerk off material? have a politburo meeting about it? hello, it’s the fucking five eyes you should be worried about if you live in the west
what would china even do with my jerk off material?
sell you toys?
But what if I need to apply for asylum there someday and they reject me because I searched for too many gooner terms on my Xiaomi phone?
Making me aware of our governments’ quid-pro-quo deals and systems for violating our rights and breaking the socio-legal contract between government and citizen is actually propaganda for that thing I hate.
training the milking machines!!?!
There’s a very ugly tower in my city. It’s generally recognized to be an eyesore. Anyway one day we’ve been invited by somebody living in it. And seeing the landscape, I realized something. From the tower, you can’t see the tower.
My point being, at least tankies dont constantly whine about tankies.
I really don’t understand the connection this person is making between skepticism/criticism of Signal and authoritarianism. Feels like an excuse to “raise awareness” of shit that everyone has already chosen a side for. Yet another weekly DAE DANKIES BAD post lazily disguised as discourse.
For your own idle entertainment / variety you can also try reading these posts as though the poster had suffered a narcissistic (ie an ego/identity) injury and is lashing out to try and reassert their dignity and “social status.” Sometimes they make more sense through that lens.
gonna steal dankie btw.
At least in my life people get BIG MAD if you tell them Signal isn’t safe. I’ve never had someone believe me or take it seriously. Your basically insulting their opsec acumen and popping their safety bubble, huge incentives to not believe it
Oh hey, the Nazi sympathizer is grousing to other Nazi sympathizers!
Quelle surprise!
25·23 hours agoHere’s the c/games post: https://hexbear.net/post/4980896
Lemmy.ml, where the ML probably stands for Marxist-Leninist
It stands for Mali. And was apparently used because they were free
as if it matters when proper e2ee is used
It does, “we kill based on metadata”
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It’s pretty obvious by the
that they came into 
and kept getting into messy arguments without caring to understand what we believe and why we believe it. Somehow they thought “surely these marxists will realize the error of their ways if I expose them to CIA talking points”.I just checked the c/games post, and rose’s comments there, in which a mod made the mistake of using the “remove content” option when banning instead of removing the comments individually, which would have allowed us now to see them. This is a callout to all mods, as the code of conduct states, do not use the remove content option unless it is “doxxing or extreme images”
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I’ve fixed the comment removals to properly display them in the modlog
Huh, for some reason, the comments haven’t been removed on lemmy.zip: https://lemmy.zip/post/39050305
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“tAnKiEs!”
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