• backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
      612·
      8 days ago

      Which is more immoral: Flock cameras or spreading misinformation about the contents of them so the tweakers dismantle the network for us. Bonus- your catalytic converter remains in place while this happens.

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
        12·
        8 days ago

        The immoral bit would be the one where the tweakers risk jail time under false pretenses in terms of the reward.

        Honestly makes for an allegory of capitalism. The worker (tweaker) does all the work and risks their health and freedom, while the beneficiary (people who want to get rid of the cameras) just enjoys the fruit of the worker’s labor.

        To be clear, I’m not saying getting rid of the cameras is a bad thing, I’m just saying tweakers are people too.

        • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
          8·
          8 days ago

          Copper thieves know most electronics contain some amount of copper, we have to convince them the reward surpasses the inherent risk that comes from stealing a security camera. Why risk jail stealing a camera when you can continue the tried and true method of stripping poorly secured new construction sites? Because one camera is worth more than you can strip out a house in a week. Did I mention they have diamond lenses?

        • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
          2·
          7 days ago

          Would drunkenly vandalizing private property of that belongs to people you disagree with for the sake of destruction rather than financial gain be immoral?

                • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
                  2·
                  7 days ago

                  Indeed it does. One can think of themselves as “not a criminal” if they define “criminal” as one convicted of a crime. Others break laws but without a record consider themselves to not be “criminal”. And some really do their damndest to obey the laws. I’m just curious as to what your experience with criminality, particularly theft and destruction of property while under the influence is. If you’ve genuinely never engaged in criminality than I’d say you’re speculating on what drives/motivates criminal behavior from an outside perspective. If you’re someone who recognizes that one can be a criminal without a conviction and you yourself engage in such behavior but have never been caught, you bring a personal perspective.

    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
      44·
      8 days ago

      There are ‘entreprenuers’ stealing fibre-optic cables for copper… This might get them to stealing flock cameras instead.

  • qupada@fedia.io
    32·
    8 days ago

    If they’re not going to concern themselves with legality when installing them, I don’t see why we should have to concern ourselves with uninstalling them.

    It’s the only just and morally correct thing to do.

  • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    25·
    8 days ago

    Why isn’t anyone mentioning the diamonds inside the cameras as well? Next to the pound of silver parts, but on top of the ounce of gold? They easily can catch $500 a piece, and there are several pieces in there.

    Also, if you spray paint the solar panel, there’s a really cool prize!

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      8 days ago

      Yeah this makes no fucking sense, it would be stupidly unnecessarily expensive and also mechanically inferior to make all those parts out of silver.

      Its almost certainly mid to low grade carbon or stainless steel.

      It wouldn’t even make sense to use aluminum… its considerably more expensive than most (all?) steel, and is generally only used when it is critical to maintain strength but also dramatically cut down on weight… aircraft, cars, etc.

      And of course silver is even more expensive than aluminum and steel.

      … Whoever posted this could fairly easily just do a weight vs volume displacement, if they have good scales.

      Silver ~= 10.5 g/cm3

      Aluminum ~= 2.7 g/cm3

      Steel ~= 7.9 g/cm3

      … There could be silver in the circuit board, chips, contacts, something like that… but it not gonna be in … load bearing components… silver is a very soft metal… smdh

      • SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
        4·
        8 days ago

        It’s electrical componentry, so conductivity and corrosion are a concern. Differential thermal expansion can also be an issue.

        The lugs are aluminium.

        The split bolts are copper or brass, tin plated for better corrosion resistance.

        None of this is going to be found in a security camera (unless they’ve earthed it with fat conductors for some reason). It’s high power gear.

  • gurty@lemmy.world
    18·
    8 days ago

    I heard a rumour that if you smash open enough of them, you have a good chance of finding a golden ticket.

  • chefdano3@lemmy.zipEnglish
    101·
    7 days ago

    You shouldn’t post blatant lies like this. It can cause misinformed people to make bad decisions. That is not silver, it’s nickel plated brass.

    If you don’t believe me, then try disassembling about 30 or so of these, take those parts, and drip some bleach on them. I guarantee they won’t immediately tarnish the way pure silver would.

  • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    7·
    8 days ago

    Harder to offload, but skip the rare metals, legitimately have a relatively solid battery with a solar panel… I’d give at least $30 for that any day of the week. Beyond that, you got an LTE modem and some antennas that could definitely be reused.

    I’ve been watching Facebook marketplace for one for a bit, but I think they’re monitoring them pretty hard.

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    3·
    7 days ago

    You would have to be the dumbest recycler if you thought a ground screw would be pure silver. Obviously those parts are coated in silver and will be brass or copper underneath.

    Also, unless you already have all the deadly chemicals and setup for stripping precious metals, don’t even try this option.