So, trump will win again…
Most of our fellow Americans are massively misogynistic and its been highlighted twice in the last 10 years by the fact that Trump won the presidential election against women. I’m saying this as a massive fan of AOC. I identify pretty strongly with her open aggression towards backwards thinking.
Factually incorrect, as evidenced by the fact that Hillary won the popular vote.
The problem isn’t running women. It’s running women who are unscrupulous and/or shitty at politics. Harris couldn’t even make it out of Iowa in 2016, so it was evidently a stupid call to let our brain-damaged former president anoint her as a successor without a primary.
George W Bush once said that if the popular vote mattered he’d campaign in Texas.
No shit it doesn’t matter, but it does demonstrate a flaw in LDF’s point.
Confidently incorrect. Popular vote doesn’t win elections and red state men don’t vote for women.
I say this as a huge fan of AOC, I think she should be Veep and have the POTUS leave at the start of the second admin. Then let her run once (twice?) more.
Explain your prediction?
No woman has won a presidential race in the United States.
The two women who made credible attempts at becoming president also happened to be utterly terrible politicians, but I’m sure that had nothing to do with the outcome.
Okay, so question: Why, in two out of the last three election cycles, has the DNC put forward “utterly terrible politicians” as the party leader and candidate for the world’s highest office?
Because if they can’t win with their corpo zombie zionist center-right candidate, they’d rather lose and play feckless controlled “opposition” than do anything to jeopardize their gravy train with a progressive.
Uh huh. Keep going.
Granted, not many have made it to the general election as the candidate of a party with a chance.
Both that have lost to Donald Trump.
Probably better than Greasy Gavin, but still voted in favor of Israel IIRC.
Oh fuck off, this is how you get Trump 2.0
Trump probably lost both the primary in 2016 and general elections both times, but we will never know for sure because most of the vote counts were not counted by humans in easy to understand ways.
Real democracies have ways to count ballots everyone is ok with, recounts are allowed. Witnesses standing in for each candidate see the counting take place and can ask for a do over.
Here, in the USA, many people see such things as quant and old fashioned; most votes are counted in literally mysterious ways; by things run by oligarchs or the very people invested in winning. And recounts are often not allowed. And often when recounts are done it’s just asking the above companies if things are ok.
Things are not ok as shown by United Nations tests to detect mass fraud, and exit polls as well as polling data before elections.
But anyone trying to have a discussion about this is automatically not part of mainstream politics. I remember huge tech conventions about this subject I am talking about ; but all were soundly ignored by all parties and mainstream media.
In fact, the price of participation in mainstream politics in real life or social media, is turning a blind eye to all this.
And that is how you get a Trump. Followed by lame controlled opposition, followed by another Trump.
I think most Americans do not understand democracy is both voting and making sure that vote is accurately counted. In some states it is.
But honestly, I don’t think Americans as a people can do democracy.
Yeah but apparently she later changed her stance. I don’t remember the details but it’s quite recent.
I hadn’t heard that. Will need to read up on it.
Last I read she was doing the whole bullshit “I support defensive weapons” nonsense that Dems started pushing when it became clear that people were pissed about the genocide and AIPAC.
LOL
How quickly people on this thread forget that the American people are sick and tired of funding the genocide while they themselves can’t afford a trip to the grocery store, and maybe it’s an issue Dems should take into consideration since it (arguably) sunk the Harris campaign.
No clue why you’re gettimg downvoted. Sometimes it feels like Lemmy exists in this weird quasi liberal bubble where they think leftist=tankie. Like do the people replyimg to go not understand that the DNC has a record low approval rating as well?
sick and tired of funding the genocide
#bothSides
And it begins again
