Bad take. They’ll give you an install disc and then make you enter an account locked code to access it anyway.
Demand digital rights instead, before a big player goes bust. Because at some point that will happen, and you’ll lose more than a handful of discs.
Legislation should force all digital marketplaces to allow selling and gifting purchased media without a middleman taking a cut.
DRM is the issue not physical. No drm means I can just keep replicating my product when physical fails
Yeah that’s my problem with it as well. People keep going “but steam does the same thing” but with steam I actually have the install on my computer, a computer which valve does not control and they cannot take things off me after the fact.
I believe you are thinking of GoG, not Steam.
Yesnt. Steam can absolutely remote remove your library.
They never did and probably won’t do it. But they could
They can take a game off sale but they can’t take something from me that I’ve already downloaded.
In most European countries yes. They can’t legally. But they can technically.
They cannot if you back it up to a folder outside of the steam directory. Provided of course the game doesn’t use Steam’s DRM.
How can they do that? I’m curious
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Damn dude, thanks for the insight
Removing options is an issue
That number lines up almost too perfectly with the sales data Sony lied about when presenting the reasons for cutting disc production
Fun fact! PlayStation Plus, Xbox Live, and Nintendo Online subscriptions go directly to them and none of that supports the server costs game developers have to pay to host online games. This is why most online games are forced into the games-as-a-service model, which makes zero sense to me as a game developer. It’s also why most indie games do not bother to add online multiplayer support as it’s far to expensive to pay for server hosting, let alone the cost of development.
As long as you still have tens of millions of people pre-ordering GTA6, nothing is going to change. People bitch and whine but they keep eating the slop.
Now ask them if they’ll buy the next console.
wont this just push people to getting steam/valve
Yeah the big advantage of disc is Sony can’t randomly take it away. And given the fact that they have literally just done that with a bunch of movies it’s kind of a problem.
It would be trivial to add online only drm with a killswitch to physical media. If that’s the problem, discs aren’t the solution. What we actually need is legal protection for consumers.
I was already planning to abandon Sony even before they shot themselves in the foot (or leg? groin? time will tell I guess)
I bought the PS5 solely to play one specific game, but I still expected to get some other games. And I’ve gotten a few at least: The Finals is amazing, Baldur’s Gate is amazing, Battlefield 6 is great… and that’s about the end of my list.
The one specific game I bought the PS5 for, No Man’s Sky, has tons of stuff you can do with mods and save editing. Same for Baldur’s Gate as far as mods go. The Finals and BF6 are FPS games so no mods, but still… 100% of the games I like could just be played on PC instead, and 50% are significantly better for doing so.
In the last few generations of consoles / handhelds, Sony has:
- Removed the ability to back your data up via USB as of PS5 (ostensibly because scary ol’ North Korea hacked them, but really because they want to force you to buy PS+)
- Removed the ability to use custom themes as of PS4
- Removed the ability to play online for free as of PS4
- Removed the ability to set a background for your console ffs as of PS5, then gave us like 10% of that back by letting you set a background specifically and only for the screen you see after the console starts
- Jacked up PS+ prices repeatedly and offered like 99% games that I never play again (granted I’m a very picky gamer but still. Shoutout to Jurassic World and some Resident Evils tho)
There’s so many reasons to ditch them even separately from the disc drama
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Ahh yes, steam renowned for its physical media.
Hopefully it just keeps them using old consoles and punishing them by not buying the digital games.
But we all know everyone will just roll over.
The problem isn’t digital the problem is digital only.
Obviously they mean that in a digital-only world, consoles are not worth it and gamers should just switch to PC.
old games? https://www.romsgames.net/
used to play these free years ago. ymmv
Cannot wait until Sony comes out with a study that shows 100% of gamers ( a small handful of people guaranteed not to care about pjydical media ) don’t want it so they can gaslight tge general public into thinking nobody wants it.
Sony and Microsoft say bad luck we are doing it anyway, and we know you will still buy our consoles.
The opposite of “digital” is “analogue”. Disks are just as digital as data downloaded from the internet.
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Will they boycott?
I already did. If i cant find it on PC at a reasonable price the high seas will provide.
Man, I couldn’t give two shits. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. What good is a disc when you’re dead? I’m here for a good time, not for a collection of plastic boxes with shiny round discs in them, uh, time. I mean, who earnestly gives a flying fuck? These days most game discs are as good as a game-key anyway as you can’t play the game before installing a massive day one patch.
It’s only 8:00 where I am so it’s possible I will read a more stupid less informed comment today, but I wouldn’t put money on it.
Have a nice day. Try not to get angry for no reason.
Don’t make more moronic comments and I’ll be happy
Your happiness is very fickle.
Most gamers have steam libraries and not a single disc to show for it. They’re not sad about it…
You should burn your faux outrage to a goddamn disc and add it to your priceless collection. Im sure it will look great between your Star Craft II box and some cobwebs.
Better than the padded cell you belong in
Lol disagreeing with your perspective is insane? Alrighty…
No just observing your insane behavior
I’m fine with digital for convenience. I just don’t want physical to disappear. Having both options is better for everyone.
I would be fine with digital only, but only if there was no DRM.
And alternative stores with alternative servers so I don’t have to buy a subscription for online capabilities and the ability to install whatever software I want… I guess a PC will do just fine.
IDK, second market games are cool.
I mean, yes that would be ideal, but its never going to happen, unfortunately. Even physical media has DRM and has had it for a long time now.
If it was possible to lend/borrow and resale digital media that would solve most of the problems. You could still have DRM that makes sure the game is only installed on a single console at a time and what not.
Another problem would also be that the servers could shut down which would mean you can’t download the game indefinitely. But that is kind of already the case, even with physical media, as a lot of games already require Day 1 patches to be playable. So its a related and also important but somewhat separate issue. I hope Stop Killing Games is successful in that department.
The difference isn’t digital vs physical. Either medium can have DRM. It’s whether you own your copy or not.
Physical DRM like the classic dial-a-pirate is owned by you. You can choose to hand someone a copy of the game and the physical DRM, and they can play it. Nobody can take that right away from you.
Online DRM will always have the flaw of someone being able to take away your rights, for any reason. Thus, you don’t own a copy of the game. Since digital games can’t have physical DRM, the only way to truly own a digital copy of a game is DRM-free.
