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Lmao. Last year I bought a 512GB Kingston canvas go plus for like 40 dollars, now it’s 105, shit’s fucked everywhere.
Yeah I have a 1TB card in my steam deck and was looking to do the same for my SW2 and yikes that cost doubled.
If you get your phone from a carrier, you’re going to get the kind of phone they want. Android or Apple.
My phone was new last year and runs modern android. It has a headphone jack, SD card slot, and even FM radio. It also has enough battery to last 10 days of moderately heavy use. Niche phones exist if you look outside what’s sold by carriers.
See this is my issue with privacy ROMS is that they’re not always built alongside pro-consumer, right to repair friendly hardware. They’re often built for flagship phones, which has its advantages, but leaves the hardware experience locked down.
I really am so excited for functioning Linux phones. I LOVE GrapheneOS, but mobile Linux is being built around those ease of repair and tinkering phones more often .
What phone do you have? I’m still holding onto an old S20 just because of the SD card slot but it’s battery is fading.
A Ulefone Armor 34 pro. It’s a ridiculous 2lb brick with nightvision, a fucking projector, and 25,500mAh of battery.
But there are a LOT of phones that check off a few less of those those boxes. Reasonable phones with only twice as much battery as any Samsung. GSMArena has a filterable search function, just filter for phones that work with the bands your country/carrier uses. No phone is compatible with all countries networks!
I’m rocking a phone from Sony right now, after a decade with Samsung Galaxy devices. I bought it specifically for the microSD card and for a headphone jack.
So many useful features lost in service to slim and waterproof theoretically. Replaceable batteries, external storage, 3.5mm jack…
These are all lies made by tech companies to spend less on engineering and production costs while selling products at the same (or higher) price.
Yep I had a waterproof android 2.3 phone that had a removable battery, microSD slot, headphone jack, and FM radio all included. There were seals around the battery door-flap and rubber plugs for the USB and headphone jacks to keep water out. Another phone I had had all those features minus the FM radio, but it had an IR blaster to control TVs and shit. Smartphones used to be more serious multi-tools, and now they’re just fancy computer tablets with cameras.
I had an HTC phone many years ago, with a headphone jack. The official instructions, for cleaning the screen, were to run it under the tap and give it a wipe lol.
I miss phones being real tools.
Sony literally has one of the most waterproof phones.
It is IP68 AND IP 65 rated (submersion and jets) which pretty much no other phones have.
Headphone jack and SD card.
It is a complete lie for profit. Just like getting rid of chargers without lowering the price.
I miss you, Xperia Z3 Compact. The perfect phone form factor for me IMO, give me the same phone but with updated internals and I’ll get it without any ounce of hesitation.
Which one is that? If it’s not bloated up with crapware it sounds like one on a future considerations list.
Their Xperia line all have microSD + jack + good front speakers (so no cutout/notch). Their software is generally clean (nothing like the Samsung, Xiaomi, etc. with loads of bloat), and many of their devices support LineageOS (like the Xperia 1 series up to V and the Xperia 10 VII)
It is IP68 AND IP 65 rated (submersion and jets)
What does that mean? As far as I understand, IP ratings don’t work like that. It’s either IP65 or it’s IP68. It can’t be both.
They are two different ratings, 6 to 8 is submersion (changing length of time in water and depth) I think while up to 5 is water jets / splashes (while 9 is fancy hot water jet)
A lot of the newer Chinese phones are rated for IP68, IP68, and IP69!
Water RESISTANT.
Exactly this! As someone who owns a Sony Xperia 1 VI, it’s worth pointing out too that Sony managed to achieve this level of waterproof with a tool-less SIM/SD card tray too, which you can simply pull out the card tray with your finger, without having to use a pin. Sony likely chose this design because they wanted to market the Xperia phones to photography enthusiasts (as can be seen in their marketing), so they wanted make it quick and simple to swap the SD card between the phone and a PC for transferring photos, like when you’re using a proper DLSR camera. And they’ve been using this tool-less tray design since the 2nd gen model that came out 6 years ago, it’s a proven reliable design.
So yeah waterproofing a phone really wasn’t as hard as some of those manufecturers tried to suggest.
There are many other companies who made waterproof phones with replaceable battery too with good IP rating.it was never a technology problem.
hi, sorry, which phone?
They’re referring to the Xperia line from Sony. They’re water resistant while offering headphone jacks and micro SD slots.
They can get expensive pretty quickly though, depending on the model.
Negative. It was all bullshit to upscale with phones. Remove an sd slot that takes up virtually no space and then charge an extra $300 for a phone with more space when the storage chip in the phone costs $20. Same for the headphone jack. Now people are buying branded earbuds every few years for hundreds of dollars. phone storage sizes haven’t increased for the past like 8 years because they want you forced into paying for cloud storage.
I have a phone right now from China with a headphone jack, cooling fan, and 1 tb storage, and it was less than a thousand bucks. It’s waterproof and plenty slim with a 7500mah battery.
All the shitty things about Samsung and apple… all the things they removed were all so they could turn around and sell you more. It has nothing to do with size constraints or waterproofing.
what phone do you have with a cooling fan?
Nubia Red Magic 11pro.
Android $1000. 1TB hard drive, 7500mah battery, 24GB of the fastest ram in any phone, best processor\apu of any android, built in cooling fan, and (mainly a gimmick, but looks cool) liquid cooling for the battery, invisible front camera, ir blaster to control TVs, headphone jack, and two touch buttons on top for gaming.Phone is really awesome.
Bad parts are a locked bootloader, only 2 or 3 years of updates, and the only carrier that it works well with is t mobile, due to missing frequency bands other carriers use, and the cameras aren’t as good as any flagship phones from the last several years.
Exactly, it was a lie to begin with.
We need to hold companies and people accountable.
My phone is as thin as I’m comfortable with it being, I have grabbed a snorkel and watched movies underwater, and it takes an sdcard.
It also has a headphone jack, but I’m not comfy using that underwater and had to use BT headphones for that.
You didn’t sacrifice for shit. It was stolen from you. Voting with your wallet isn’t a real option.
So what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about all the comforts of modernity being stolen from you as its weight and terror and heat come crashing down? You can’t go back. There is no back, not with the planet like this. Not that you survive. What are you gonna do about it?
My phone has an underwater photography mode. It also has a micro SD card slot, and a 3.5mm headphone jack. The battery is unfortunately sealed, but it’s 10,000mAh so should be able to handle some capacity loss.
It’s perfectly possible to do most of those at once.
Like that’s ever going to happen.
Many of you will never know the freedom of a micro SD, headphone jack and tool less user-swappable battery. You’d set out for a day’s adventure prepared and just wouldn’t think about your phone at all. You’d use it as a tool as needed, without hesitation. Casually carrying all your music, some movies if trapped somewhere, effectively unlimited stotage space and zero dongles. Bluetooth headphones as default, wired earbuds as backup and you could move from zero to 100% battery in the 23 seconds it took to remove phone back and swap a fresh battery. And technically all things needed as “backup” fit in a pocket or purse.
It was perfect and they broke it to drive cloud storage, bluetooth headphone sales and to increase “anxiety” that your phone is old/failing as you get storage full notifications and the same old battery runs thousands of cycles without simple replacement path and holds charge less and less.
Fuck Apple and Apple devotees.
As much as I miss user-replacable batteries, I’d argue, for your example, a non-device specific power bank (or five) is simply a better, more practical and less wasteful option. Especial if rechargable with standard usb-c and some sort of QI built in. I do miss microSD for a lot of reasons though.
Nah. Even with QI, a power bank is an ongoing concern for proper alignment, even with magsafe. If not, fumbling with wire. The battery cost was so low, you would easily have 2-3 spares (charged prior on an equally cheap battery charger). And again, can’t stress this enough, in the time it takes to unwrap a stick of gum and put it in your mouth, you were at 100℅ and no more thought. And even on the most taxing day ever, you never really used more than a second battery while out.
Does 3 percent or 100 really matter? If it does, I am wrong. Does it have downsides? Sure as shit. Everything does. I’m trying to wheigh upsides and downsides evenly. I agree, I miss some things. But easy of use, comparability, transferability, easability… Nothing is perfect. SDcard, head-phone jack… No fair alternative so far.
Not sure what you mean with the 3 percent or 100 comment? Power matters, especially during travel. Being able to, without concern, simultaneously use GPS, take constant high resolution photo/video, translation, research reviews, grab confirmation numbers, mobile pay and play music if solo turns a stressful new situation into something you can enjoy and stay fully immersed in.
When you do these things, does it matter to you if your battery sits at 3 percent (charging from a power bank) or 100 percent (switched in a new battery). Again, I’m not saying either is perfect but they both have advantages and I’d (personally) take the power bank over powering my device off, switching in a semi-proprietry battery I’m, turning the device on and getting a (presumed) 100 percent right away.
Once you switch device, those proprietary batteries are useless while the power bank travels with you. Again, neither is perfect. I’d like both options available.
You’re still missing a lot here, point one is that a sealed battery is diminishing returns, less charge held with time. Swappable means 100% charge, but also 100% new battery health with aging cells. Second, your overlooking the point about wired or wireless banks needing babysitting - talked about wireless alignment issues, but you’re also putting a lot of stress on your usb-c port, a common failure point, by shoving those wires in pocket while trying to charge on the go. Last, the price of the proprietary batteries was negligible, and they were the size of like two to three credit cards stacked. If you are holding on to external power banks that long as well (which you likely aren’t) your risk of those things bulging/exploding in yet another sealed case increases. When you hold the batteries themselves, you have full transparency and can act ahead of issues with bulging.
So, no, I respectfully do not agree with your premise - They aren’t equal, swapple batteries were objectively better in multiple ways.
P.s. what are even doing on a smartphone that you can’t be bothered to power down for the literal 15 seconds it takes to cycle modern devices to then resume with all apps still in background process and auto saving content?
I never said they were equal. If I gave that impression, I’m sorry. My point was, given the advantages and disadvantages of each, I’d pick the power bank. I’d like to have both. I’d like to have SDcards, I’d like to have headphone connection. Hell, I’d like to have PCMCIA or PC Express or aaaaaanything internal. I’d also like a physical keyboard but not all battles can be won.
But but but muh waterproof (that really isn’t).
Yeah but all the apple users and idiot kids told me that nobody uses SD cards, just use the cloud!
Apparently the normies love paying tons of extra money for less space and less privacy and security, not to mention less access to your data should your network drop.
My favorite was “nobody downloads music anymore”
🤣
Guess who’s battery is not goin to drain while listening music!
Lmao whaaaat?! The kids are clearly not okay.
On the bright side, I am happy that internet speeds and availability is good enough now that I pretty much never have to worry about storing music on my phone because unless I’m on vacation, streaming will work pretty much anyone I go.
Twenty years ago, this level of internet access was only possible in my dreams. Teenager me would be absolutely ecstatic to find out that in just a couple of decades, I will be able to go online anywhere I want without being tethered to a PC, and my phone bill will actually decrease over time too. I never thought I’d see the day where I could get unlimited talk, text, and 50 whole gigabytes of data for half as much as I’m paying for 300 minutes, 500 texts, and data that is charged by the megabyte in the 2000s. That’s one good thing about the modern era; phone bills have never been lower.
You seem to have a titanic blindspot in the form of a fundamental unawareness about the stability of your indefinite access to the media you can stream. Research some of the modern conversion around owned media. The point is that we didn’t even have to think about it be we weren’t beholden to a company. Expandable storage capacity was already to the point where I had it all with me and I could listen in the middle of nowhere and again, was never even a thought otherwise.
Dress it up however you’d like, it’s lesser in many ways.
Hey, not arguing anything you said; in fact, I agree with all of it.
It’s just that there’s so much negativity in the world that I thought I’d point out the bright side of things.
It’s a nice thought, but in this case that can really read as covering for bad folks doing bad things. The old saying is to plant trees that you will never be able to enjoy the shade of - meaning trying to focus on our positive today “this works great for me now” does nothing for the kids that will come up after us. We focus on, not positive or negative, but on reality for them, today.
And the reality is, the strategy is get us to full cloud, no owned media, and then make access gated to the wealthy, censor/alter content after release and monitor consumption of media for several nefarious reasons.
It’s real and it’s active, speak about it.
Losing the microSD card slot has put me off of buying flagship devices.
My 6 year old phone does more than the modern ones.
I want to want a new phone. I just don’t.
Fairphone. No headphone jack, but at least a microSD card slot.
I used to say Sony but fuck them. They still have both though.
Motorola also has both on many models.
No interesting phones. Nowadays the most interesting phones are the ones you can secure and degoogle the most (too bad pixels have no SD card, no headphone jack, and tiny storage)
There are a number of niche brands out there that still cater to us old farts. Check out Ulefone, Oukitel, Unihertz, Doogee, iiif150, etc. Each company has normal models, but they all also dabble in unusual experimental models as well, some that are ultra small, other that have blackberry style keypads, or feature projectors, floodlights, uhf radios, thermal cameras, multiple screens, etc etc.
Most models still retain SD card slots, headphone jacks, some still have IR emitters and other older i/o as well.
They’re all Chinese companies though, funny how all the consumer tech innovation is happening in communist countries.
Theres been a few Chinese models I found appealing, but using a Chinese phone in the States seems like a huge hassle from what I’ve heard
yeah, tmobile (and mvno’s that use their network) is the only US carrier that it’s easily doable on, and you’ve gotta make sure the phone has the 4g/5g bands/antennas that match their network.
An elegant device from a more civilized age.
I’ve since upgraded with a NAS - if something happens to my phone everything is synced to my server anyway, so the only real loss is the hardware. Kind of like folk that subscribe to a cloud service. My phone has 512GB of storage to toy with, so I’m really not missing the microSD cards.
Tbh, specifically microSD cards - I don’t miss.
The only time I used one, it failed after like a year and I was lucky I had backups because I couldn’t recover anything. No idea why the hell everything on it became unreadable and nothing on the internet helped.
yes ffs, I’d just get a 256 Moto Fold and slap a 1TB in there for media
i have an outdoors phone ,older Nokia X20, has 128 but has an SD card with 512 in it.
When the trucklefuck have our need ever mattered?
…microSD cards went away? Honestly didn’t know that, but at the same time I’m mostly using repaired +8yo tech and doing just fine
I think the article is referring to devices like phones which mostly are not sold with microSD slots anymore.
Nah, you can buy them just fine. But everything needs to be lightspeed transfer rates all the time.
Low read speeds and saving to cloud has driven consumer’s demand down.
And big Tech’s greed took over, charging multiple times the cost for phones with bigger saving space and removing microSD so you have no option.
You’re a lot more optimistic about the motives than I am.
I’m convinced big tech being able to make more money selling you other storage options instead of allowing you to just expand it yourself with a much cheaper SD card is at least 90 percent of why sd cards stopped being a thing on phones.
Cloud storage will have had some effect on demand but read/write speeds are not a variable if you just store a bunch of music and photo’s on the SD card. Read write speeds to the cloud are also trash compared to internal storage.
Same story with the headphone jack. It’s not that people didn’t use it, there was definately still an audience for it and it’s a part that costs pennies. But axing it boosts the sale of Bluetooth gear.
It’s not a coincidence that Apple and Samsung led the charge here, they sell tons of accessoires.
It’s not that I’m optimistic, it’s just that people didn’t take notice because of the lower demand. Especially when the base phones were at 128GB.
I mean I personally haven’t thought of microSD the past 10 years. Old phone had 64GB and now 128GB.
The only way to get limited is by installing large games or software that microSD maybe suck at compared to internal storage.
Cloud took a portion of used space and made your phone to have more space than before, not that is faster or anything.
Companies just took advantage to skyrocket profits as always.
The storage crisis doesn’t only affect built-in storage but also external one. The only thing different might be that with a memory card you kinda have the choice of what class of card to get.
Bought a pinfor a decent price recently, came with a 256gb sd in it.
Micro sd cards aren’t all that cheap right now either .
Still WAY cheaper than phone manufacturer upgrades though.
For example, on the Pixel 10 Pro it’ll cost you $120 to add 256 GB of storage (going from the 256 GB option to 512 GB option), and on the iPhone 17 it’ll cost you $200 for the same jump.
A name-brand Sandisk 256 GB micro SD card costs about 60 bucks right now, or anywhere from half to less than third of the upgrade price. You could buy a 1 TERABYTE Micro SD card from Sandisk for less than Apple charges for 256 GB, and even if the $120 price from Google was your limit, you could still buy 512 GB of additional storage and have money left over.
And of course as someone else already mentioned, you don’t have to get rid of your old storage media when you swap phones if it’s on a portable Micro SD card, so you don’t have to pay more money for storage every single time you get a new phone. Not only is it cheaper on its own, but it’s also a less frequent purchase.
The onboard storage should be faster, which is obviously why it costs more, but I’m with you just give me some bulk cheap bulk storage for videos, photos and stuff
If a modern high speed SD card is good enough for 60fps 4k done footage, or whatever they’re shooting now, it’s probably fast enough for whatever you’re doing on your phone.
But those cards can carry you between phones.
No, but I have dozens of them just lying around from playing with Raspberry Pis.
You don’t need a new one each time you swap a phone. Many of us have old ones laying around. Plenty enough speed for photos and video.
No but we all have a dozen laying around the house we can use.
They shrunk massive storage down to a tiny usable convenient size and then said, okay we’re not going to use it anymore. fuck the cloud
Too late, Apple already has complete control in most markets. Not just in terms of market share, but also leadership - everyone else takes their cues from Apple. The larger population is also completely brainwashed at this point and worships Apple no matter how high the prices are jacked or how many features are removed. iPhones are status symbols, particularly among younger generations, and if you don’t have one then you’re seen as cheap or a loser.
microSD still exists for niche brands and the low cost segment of the market, but it’s never coming back for the phones we are talking about here. Everyone gleefully bought into the subscription lifestyle where they have zero control or ownership when it was affordable, and now they’re all crying about enshittification even though they were repeatedly told at the time that this is how it would go. It’s hard not to feel some level of schadenfreude watching these absolute morons struggling with the rising costs associated with their idiotic lifestyle choices.
There really is a place for phones having slower, but cheaper and bigger storage. Some photos or your music really do not need that fast speeds.
Google wants you using their cloud
laughs in german 5g coverage
My Spotify offline library takes up more than 128gb alone because
