Americans unironically thought that having a 401k means that you own the company.
Union pensions aren’t even allowed to
ITS COMMUNISM AND THATS WRONG
ITS COMMUNISM AND THATS GOOD
I do quite enjoy gamblingThere’s two different versions of that guy. The first is a turbolib who argues that because anyone can buy shares in a public company, that means we already have communism. The second is a hyper-proto-capitalism traditionalist that think proper capitalism is when every company is owned by a single individual and any group ownership is no different than the USSR.
There was literally a lib meme someone posted on slop like a week or two ago that said this exact thing
my bits can no longer compete with reality
Oh that fucking sucks, I hate it.
You’re welcome
and it’s AI too
I would have been surprised if it wasn’t
Spodermen Sanders
Why don’t the workers just buy the means of production?
This would be true if only workers within the company owned the stock, and with maybe some exceptions of pensioners, there are no outside investors taking a share of the profit for no labor in return.
Though would it really be a stock market at that point?
That’s more like syndicalism. If the means of production are cut into 100 million pieces and owned by the workers within the disparate companies rather than publicly owned, i.e. owned by everyone collectively, you do not have communism.
It stops being a stock market when you stop being able to buy and sell the stock.
Also it isn’t communism if you can buy and sell the stock.
What if workers could trade or gift away a cut of their profit share to another worker within. Perhaps a senior worker who wants to reward a junior worker? Also this is totally my socialist pipe dream. I don’t know how it would work completely but it’s what I try to imagine as the first step into a post-capitalist mode of production and profit redistribution.
You’re just trying to reinvent mondragon
There’s an oldish article from a US Marxist going to a Chinese economics forum and giving a very horrified report back of people literally saying publicly traded corporations are publicly owned.
I kinda think Henry Ford might have been one of these guys
Like I’m only halfway joking
I think Rothbard or one of the other libertarian jerkwads though index funds were communism
Wasn’t Rothbard the “sell your kids” libertarian? I know that’s kinda all of them
I think so. He was also a big fan of Lenin’s organizational strategies (if a staunch opponent to communism), even calling his work “What is to be Done?”
