I still don’t know how this new economy they see in the AI future works. If 70%+ of the population can’t earn a paycheck, it’s all gonna collapse. They are killing the worker, completely oblivious that the worker is also the consumer…
I’m not a billionaire and I don’t study that species or it’s habitat closely, but from my limited knowledge they don’t really make their money off the consumer anymore. It’s more that they invest in the stock market which seems to be mostly disconnected from the larger economy. They also seem to get a lot of money via the Governments of the world.
So why would they care if most of the peons lose their job? Even if the unwashed masses revolt they have bunkers and the ability to move anywhere quickly. They don’t give a fuck. But I do think they need a few
slavesworkers to support them and their needs, but beyond that …Fuk man, feels like we should just jump back to barter at this point. The moneys it’s own worst enemy
They’re gonna kill that 70% of the population and say that they got uploaded to data center heaven.
True facts.
Or in a cozy murder mystery to identify the future first corpse.
Or a parodic take on the genre.
I don’t make a lot of predictions about artificial intelligence, but I will go out on a limb on this one and make one: this will never happen.
The human brain runs on 20 watts of power. Right now I have an AI running on an Intel NUC (Qwen 2.5 9B) that can do most home automation tasks I run through it (setting timers, setting reminders, making to-do lists, turning things off and on), as well as answer general questions (“who were the members of The Beatles?”) and be (mostly) correct. It uses about 65 watts of power to do so.
It’s nowhere near as smart as I am and it uses 3x the electricity I do. But I couldn’t do this even last year. Efficiency gains to this technology have a ceiling so high that I don’t think most people believe it because they see all these data centers being built and people like Sam Altman talking dumb shit like this. The future of AI will be local. It will run on your phone and be smarter than you, and in fairly short order.
We are already able to run models locally (Qwen 3.8 27B) that blow last-gen frontier models away (and give current frontier models a run for their money), but you need a high-end setup like an RTX 5090 24G and 64G system RAM.
The future of AI will be local. It will run on your phone and be smarter than you, and in fairly short order.
LLMs and the surrounding code that drives them (“harnesses”) are so far from AGI that it will be decades before we see your prediction come true. We need not just one, but many more leaps forward in AI progress to achieve a level of AI that is capable of performing human-level reasoning and planning that will be “smarter than you” or me. If you have studied AI in the pre-LLM times you will have an understanding of the problems that need to be solved for general reasoning intelligence. We haven’t solved any of those problems.
LLMs are a large step forward in the field of NLP, but that’s it.
I’m not here to argue that point. But my crappy NUC based LLM can answer the Beatles question. What it can’t answer is “what was the name of the guy who famously rolled his eyes while Yoko Ono screwed up his performance?” Right off the top of my head, neither can I. But OpenAI’s model would have no problem with that question.
So when I say “smarter than you or I” I don’t mean AGI and I’m not trying to get into an AGI conversation. I mean something that runs locally, doesn’t rely on the Internet and can answer almost any general trivia question accurately. And LLMs are already there, but not yet on your phone. When they are on your phone, people won’t need OpenAI or Sam Altman’s models anymore. That’s all I’m trying to say. I’m refuting Altman’s claim that we will pay for intelligence like a utility.
I run a Qwen 3.8 27b at home on gaming hardware. Got it scraping and posting news articles and general stupid questions. Takes 5 minutes instead of seconds because it has a gemma model doing RAG in the back end.
Other than some coding, I really don’t have a reason to use a big model.
Yes, and I agreed with every word of your previous comment with the exception of
It will … be smarter than you
which I think is an extremely prevalent misconception about the state of AI that’s worth debunking every time it is mentioned, and this misconception is due to the exact same causes as the point of this post: The CEOs are misrepresenting what this technology will scale to, in order to extract the maximum investment from unsophisticated investors. In doing so they’re causing enormous turmoil in the labour markets that is affecting the lives of every white-collar worker.
Their narratives are harmful and they need to be called out.
You may be correct from a technology perspective but you are forgetting how people work. These days people won’t even run their own cable modem or Wi-Fi access point. They would rather rent them from the ISP.
I’m talking about something that runs locally. On your phone, even. You wouldn’t need a cable modem, wifi or an ISP. You wouldn’t need Sam Altman or OpenAI. That’s all I’m trying to say. I’m refuting the idea that we will need to buy intelligence like Sam Altman is claiming in the OP.
Right. This is because the ISPs actively obfuscate or hide the knowledge necessary to do this. In other words, they expect us to offload the intelligence behind this from them. It’s already happening. It’s what they done with cooking and pretty much every other skill we humans have quite amazingly developed. The news doesn’t report about Local Language Models. They promote hyperscale data center Large Language Model stuff, making us associate “AI” with that and thus mystifying other ideas (that are less beholden to large corporations) to the point that “normies” are made to feel as though they are not intelligent enough to run this stuff themselves.
Just look at Linux. It’s still treated as a kind of niche, “computer-smart” thing. I’m a GenX/Millennial “normie.” I do have certain computer skills that both Boomers and GenZ lack, but I’m probably about at pace with most people my age. I switched over to Linux about a year and a half ago (from MacOS, where all the computing knowledge has been offloaded to a corporation) and have not looked back. These things are learnable. The learning just needs to be encouraged and made available. But the Sam Altman’s of the world have such utter contempt for the rest of us they’d rather us be the mouth-breathing, drool-faced sheep they see us rather than actually do anything to better the human condition.
Imagine being so much of a sociopath disconnected from reality that you don’t even realize how dystopian and nightmarish your vision sounds for the public.
And they don’t understand why we hate them. Probably jealousy, what else??
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It’d be a shame if someone [redacted] this moron
I see a world where these assholes no longer exist. I like that world better.
Fuck you, Sam.
His job is probably easiest to replace with AI. Just make up random bullshit and tell investors what they want to hear.
ChatGPT, act like a human CEO who is almost completely divorced from everything that makes one a normal human being, and is trying to hide their fundamental hollowness and alienation, and not doing a very good job.
What do you mean divorced from humanity?? Why, just the other day he had a great idea. He wants us to create podcasts with AI that summarize what’s going on in our kids’ lives so they can listen on the way home from soccer practice. If that’s not real genuine human connection, I don’t know what is!!
Here’s a tip to make yourself popular at a party: walk up to someone, take a picture, and ask the AI to roast the person. Tell it to be nasty and use forbidden words. It’s going to be so fun!
Hell yes, great idea. I’ve just started sending my ai avatars to parties but this is a great prompt to give the avatar. Thanks!!!
But it’s not even intelligence you’re trying to sell us!
Alas, I’m reminded that Fahrenheit 451 scenario envisioned by Bradbury isn’t far from the current situation. People gave up books and learning, before they were illegal, lest they* offend someone’s feelings.
Grammar *
He’s not talking about “IQ” intelligence…like, we will all be stupid, and will have to pay them to think for us.
He’s talking about information. The kind of “intelligence” that governments gather about other governments, or members of the public.
Which is still fucked up, because he’s implying that they will know everything about everyone, and they will eventually charge a subscription fee for access to that information.
He also means that, but he means “intelligence” in the other sense too. They talk all the time about outsourcing our own memories and thinking to chatbots; they want to make everyone illiterate and reliant on machines to do all their thinking for them.
I think if he had intent behind the choice in dropping “artificial” he means to equate AI models with human intelligence. “Intelligence” in your framing is definitely a subset of the data they wish to have exclusive to their platform. They may also want to generate such intel by capturing the interface between human and computer such that targets with poor ops sec would spill the beans to their AI gf.
They’ve abstracted the sexy dtf spy into whatever grok is.
People are generous, they will let you use guillotine once.
Guillotines are such a primitive and manual technology though, I feel like this is underselling the human creative spirit and ingenuity and how far we’ve come since the French Revolution. Surely with all the technology and resources we have access to in the modern age, we can invent a much more efficient and heavily industrialized approach to exterminating billionaires. I feel like at a bare minimum it needs to incorporate an assembly line and industrial robots with lasers.
you forgot that guillotines don’t work for profit; they do it for the love of the game. optimization is just taking away their joyful time.
And we wouldn’t charge much for them usin it, like the air they breathe
Me dumb. Me rent brain, brain think for me.
This is such blatant IPO bait.
