• cattywampas@lemmy.world
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    Less. A hamburger is a descendent of the Hamburg steak which is a ground beef patty. It’s got nothing to do with ham.

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        Porc is the insurance branch of Pork, which isn’t allowed to do business claiming it performs porking services.

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      That may be the origin but the term has its own meaning and usage today. You can have a veggie-burger or a turkey-burger or salmon-burger. Why not the same construction with ham? A Ham-burger?

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        Because it’s too close so it would be confusing. You order a veggie burger or a turkey burger and you know what you’re getting. You order a hamburger and get ham, you’re likely gonna be confused.

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        Why do we use euphemism after the animal is killed? Just call it what it is, a pig-burger.

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          It’s not a euphism, it developed in the English language because the aristocracy, which could actually afford meat and ate it regularly, spoke french, therfore using french terms for the meat e.g. Porcine -> pork or Bœuf -> beef ) wheras the farmers who actually raised and dealt with the animals, but rarely if ever could actually afford to eat them, used anglo saxon to refer to them, hence this dichotomy in names for meat vs. animal in English.

          It has nothing to do with being a euphism. It’s also evident that the cheapest meat, and pretty much the only one that even peasants could somewhat regularly afford, chicken, did not undergo this split.

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        Funny enough, no one knows. It’s quite possible it comes from Hamburg or maybe was popularized in America by immigrants from there, but no conclusive link is known.

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    Probably less. The ‘ham’ in hamburger doesn’t refer to the type of meat. But rather, the ‘hamburg’ in hamburger refers to the indirect origin of the creation (via the Hamburg steak sandwich). Hamburg in Germany. So putting actual ham in a hamburger would a) make it not really a hamburger, and b) be pretty confusing to people.

    Edit: corrected my previous explanation based on the feedback of others.

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      Correct except hamburgers originated in America, only taking their name from the Hamburg steak, whose connection to the city of Hamburg is dubious at best.

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      Close. The creation was the Hamburg Steak, it was not originally a sandwich. A hamburger is a hamburg sandwich.

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      If you give spamburger everyday to people, does it make a spam spamburger ?

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    Well, there’s no sand in a sandwich, Manwich isn’t a Sweeny Todd product, but a veggiewich is full of veggies. Maybe if you grind the ham and mix a bit of egg and breadcrumb, you could make a hamhambuger, which isn’t more or less, just different.

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    Just be British and call them beefburgers because that is what they are? Except when visiting McDonald’s then they are hamburgers…