• idkmybffjoeysteel [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      59·
      8 months ago

      I think it’s a popularity drive, they are trying to psychologically short circuit people: hey you, you like tits? so do we, sadly the woke crowd do not, tut tut

      similar to how advertisers describe their cereal as crunchy in order to imply that their competitor’s cereal is not also crunchy

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          19·
          8 months ago

          So here’s the thing as I see it: conservatives have/(I argue) had lightning in their hands with memes about avoiding taxes. That shit is funny as fuck. Evading the IRS agent, capsizing your boat, etc. are all a really good playing field to get people to warm up to your side. I don’t think they did a good job making sure that stayed in the zeitgeist because it’s so much easier to think of conservatives as people who don’t like woke things. So instead of seeing them desparados and cowboys, you see a black person in media, roll your eyes, and think “my weird uncle would hate this.” Bringing the taxes back up probably has diminishing returns because now it just looks like another bid to get you to dislike shit.

          Now you have another battlefield where there’s a “national divorce” where, by some stroke of luck, the left ended up with beer, football, and tomboys ( jesse-wtf ). However, the idea is that the right got boobs in the divorce. So now you have a chance, as a conservative memer, to go “oh my god, the right likes to princess carry and look down at the boobs, the left likes to be princess carried.” Unfortunately, you as a conservative, are not normal about women and instead like to get into diatribes defining womanhood (but DEFINITELY not gender expression). The main thrust at the moment is going to be talking about BODACIOUS ta-tas and how 1950s coded this woman is. Oh my god she’s so bubbly and no other woman in my life acts bubbly. You can never be the party where women are free to express themselves because, frankly, you’re the people who want to have a say in their healthcare. You would rather the single family unit be the main building block of society (you’re not even the party of the clan). At best you’re Colby Covington with paid models, but Megan Thee Stallion is never going to be scantily clad for freedom the way she is for anime.

          So even if it could work and you could have a fierce competitor for national popularity, you won’t. They’re not cool. They can never be cool. Even country music was cooler before conservatives got ahold of it.

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            16·
            8 months ago

            I don’t disagree with you, but my gut instinct for why they’ve latched onto the imagery of a big breasted blonde woman is pure transphobia. They’re trying to purport women like Sweeney represent a cosmic ideal of womanhood and that anyone trans (man/woman/otherwise) will fail to meet her innate level somehow.

            They’re trying to circle the wagons on aesthetics I guess. They’re getting weird about it, saying their preferences are universally and biologically ingrained.

            Or my other suspicion is that a lot of reactionaries are closet bi/gay and are using the abstract ideal of Sydney Sweeney to hide how gay they are? I don’t know. We’ve gotten into weird territory.

            • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
              24·
              8 months ago

              it’s transphobia, it’s homophobia, it’s misogyny, it’s a little racism. the inside of their skulls looks like a septic tank.

              (I don’t think the Closeted Homophobe hypothesis holds for 99% of them. Rod is one of the big exceptions.)

              • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                18·
                8 months ago

                yeah, I always kneejerk go towards the closeted homophobe thing because it’s been true anecdotally three times now with people from my hometown. I shouldn’t lean on it so much, sorry.

                I just hate these reactionaries and want them to die

            • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              6·
              8 months ago

              I have this tendency to look at what is happening and the implications of acting like that more than the why. That leaves me with this black box of incomprehensible emotional mush. I feel like it tracks that every time they rag against blue hair, 15 seconds later they’re gonna say some “and now you don’t even know what gender your car is!!” They’d have some idea to the effect of this actress being more correct and therefore more beautiful. If you’re confused, you should simply strive to be like her or (let’s be real, they’d like “and” instead) die trying.

              Do you really think the reason boils down to pure transphobia? Not like in conjunction with some loss of a privileged position where people couldn’t talk back to you?

              • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                6·
                8 months ago

                maybe it’s immaterial of me, but recently I’ve been seeing almost all bigotry (transphobia, misogyny, racism, etc) as constructs of the same thing, and it’s almost always a neurosis over perceived loss of patriarchal privilege. And it’s a sexual thing too. You’re right, I do see bigotries as connected primarily to a privileged position that comes under threat. Being gay, trans, black, or an assertive woman threatens that entire framework if those all end up being valid categories of people, which would then undermine the functions of capitalism overall

                I’m also American and see it through that lens. The basic chud impulse is a thought that goes like “i don’t want people to think I’m gay, because I’ll lose authority if people think I’m gay.” That’s one of their main preoccupations and it guides their various other bigotries.

    • camaron30 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      10·
      8 months ago

      I may be wrong, but i think the idea is that (seriously, how the hell am i better than these chuds at explaining their own ideology):

      The left (supposedly) hates beauty and tradition and nice things, which is why we (supposedly) support disabled and fat people in modeling and beauty magazines (also trans people, i guess). So a conventionally attractive young blonde woman becoming a sex symbol is an attack on the left because it proves that no matter how much “the elites” try to push other beauty standards (the ones i mentioned earlier), “the people” will always choose blonde women with big breasts.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      17·
      8 months ago

      The recent thing with Sweeney has actually helped me better understand what they mean by woke. It’s all wrapped up in misogyny and objectifying women, that’s the main focus of it. They think wokeness is the promotion of the idea they have to settle for “inferior” women, or allow good women to be with “inferior” men. Their antiwokeness gravitates around a central idea that white cis women are theirs to control. So they end up with sexual paranoia about becoming gay, or seeing a black man with a white woman, or they might be forced into respecting women regardless of their sexual characteristics.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
        9·
        8 months ago

        I think they also believe that people who are “woke” are performatively sexless soy drones, and that’s why big boobs are anti-woke weapons. They seem to believe that the woke mob hates sex and wants women to cover up or something.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    8 months ago

    Oh, you think wokeism is the answer? Well when I see big tits I turn into a wolf, I start howling, and my tongue flaps out and I have to roll it back up into my mouth because it’s like 20 feet long. Then I turn into a steam whistle.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    39·
    8 months ago

    So I’m guessing the angle is that the woke mob hates big-breasted women because of body positivity promoting physically unattractive women in the eyes of conservatives. Therefore Sydney being a big-breasted white woman with blonde hair is defying the woke agenda against people like her.

    Kind of a weird hill to die on though. If anything the “woke left” is all in on big boobs with their sex positivity stuff.

    • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      39·
      8 months ago

      Chuds have the mentalities of literal toddlers and think that “support for x” must necessarily mean “we hate everything that’s not x” no matter how incoherent such a take turns out to be. So “please stop fatshaming people” becomes “the left hates attractive people” and you end up with this nonsense about how the woke mob hates big ol’ tonhongerekoogers despite no one ever saying anything of the sort.

      • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        8 months ago

        Yep, they’re called reactionaries because they’re always reacting to other liberatory movements and exist only in opposition to them. Without “wokism” there could be no “anti-wokism”.

    • ashinadash [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      15·
      8 months ago

      I think it’s a psychological warfare thing trying to get the left to fixate exclusively on big tiddies to the detriment of all other cup sizes tbh. Some of the comments I’ve seen, makes me wonder.

    • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      30·
      8 months ago

      I was going to say is she like leaning into thisnpr something or does she just have the extremely unfortunate luck of having the worst 30% of the country constantly feeling the need to publicly admit how horny they are for her.

      If she’s not endorsing this I really fell bad for her that she’s literally been reduced to a pair of tits.

    • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      15·
      8 months ago

      To give you a better idea of the type of person we’re dealing with, this dumb motherfucker believes in demonic possession. He divorced his wife and abandoned his kids to go be a trad orthodox guy in Hungary.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      31·
      8 months ago

      She’s a prominent white blonde woman and reactionaries have adopted her as the standard for feminine beauty. But they’re not even being the normal kind of horny about her. They’re saying she’s so hot that she invalidates feminism, queerness, and being woke. Sweeney herself hasn’t said anything like this. The closest thing to a political statement she’s made is one time her brother posted pictures from their mother’s 60th birthday and a few people were wearing parody MAGA hats. Sweeney then told everyone to chill out, but didn’t say anything that sounded political at all. She’s probably a standard rich Hollywood lib.